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Jimbo1337 said:
SanAndreasX said:

The TSA example only strengthens the argument against SAVE, not for. 

You're subjective to very intrusive searches by the TSA. They flash what are essentially nude pictures of you on scanners, with your naughty bits blurred out, or touch you to the degree that the authorities think they can get away with in a courtroom.  Much of it is security theater. We put up with it because once you're 40,000 feet in the air in a pressurized tube, you're at the absolute mercy of the elements and those who can manipulate that specific set of elements with weapons. In the air during the flight, the captain and crew are the absolute law, which we put up with because one disruption, even without malicious intent, can put the passengers and crew on the plane in danger. .That scenario doesn't exist in a voting booth.  There is no constitutionally guaranteed right to fly on an airplane, which means that we either agree to all of this or find another method of transportation. There is, however, a constitutionally guaranteed right to vote. 

One man's hurt feelings over rejection do not constitute an argument for taking away mail-in voting or any of my other rights, nor do the vicariously hurt feelings of his supporters. Full stop. As the pro-gun people say (and I myself am a gun owner), enforce the laws already on the books.

You either missed the core of my post or are conflating security screening with identity verification. To clarify: identity checks verify credentials, not the physical contents on a person. Please take the time to read the actual argument presented rather than reacting to a misinterpretation.

If you continue to mischaracterize my points, I will simply stop responding. It is a waste of time to engage with someone who refuses to carefully read what I wrote.

I read your post. I reject your premise, because what I said is really the core of the whole argument.

An incompetent president mismanaged the worst public health crisis in the United States in decades and lost an election. Because he is a narcissist, he could not gracefully accept the results, and now he wants to change the rules to advantage himself, especially now that he's looking at the very real possibility of a hostile Congress after January 1. One of his pet monkeys in Tennessee got primaried yesterday, after Tennessee tried to change its rules to appease him.  Trump doesn't have any accomplishments to offer going into the midterms, so he's re-litigating all of his grievances from 2020, like immigration and COVID, because his handling of those grievances cost him the 2020 election.  Strip away all of the bullshit, and that's what this is really about.

The poll workers did not make a mistake. The system made a mistake. That mistake was caught and corrected because of safeguards built into the system. It was also an error of a statistically insignificant magnitude. There is no evidence of "widespread voter fraud."

Our elections are secure. There are safeguards in place that work. Use those. I am not going to have my rights infringed because a mentally ill man cannot accept that there are a lot of people who don't like him. 

Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 07 August 2026