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SvennoJ said:
Zkuq said:

You absolutely can, but the hardware needed for anything but the most basic stuff is fairly expensive. Given some time, it'll become more affordable, assuming data centers don't still hoard up all the memory or other critical hardware. I don't feel like there's need for a conspiracy theory to explain the current situation, although I'm sure some parties are definitely keeping an eye out for such possibilities too.

Putting the cart before the horse comes to mind. More efficient software and hardware should be made first before brute forcing with AI data centers, but we'll hope the polluting AI data centers will design the more efficient software and hardware for us. 

Surveillance and oppression are not a conspiracy theory, they're a conspiracy fact. It's everywhere, Palantir for example:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/palantir-is-turning-the-nhs-into-a-tool-for-mass-surveillance/

To me, the way this is being handled seems like a typical growth first, profitability after thing. I'd definitely love for it to be reversed, but there don't seem to be enough incentives for that. Optimization tends to happen when it's needed and not a moment sooner. Most likely there's a humongous amount of software that could run more efficiently if it was optimized better, but with improvements in hardware, optimization has become less and less important.

I know, more or less, that there's some worrying things going on and probably mostly becoming worse too, but that has little to do with AI. I guess for us in the West, Snowden was the eye-opener, and at this point, that's already a long time ago. What I was referring to as a conspiracy theory is data centers/AI being driven by surveillance needs.

Last edited by Zkuq - on 14 June 2026