What unsuccessful console has the best third party lineup

[Chrkeller]

curl-6 said:

Chrkeller said:

Oh, I greatly disagree with that.  The OG established Halo as a legit top tier franchise, also pulled in a lot of PC only type of games.  It set the stage for the xbox 360.

I work as a technical lead in general product goods, losing money is expected in the vast majority of cases.  It is hard to establish a brand, very rare to take on the big dogs (e.g. name brands) out of the gates.  New products typically have higher CoGs due to lack of volumes, Ops costs are high because efficiencies are a WIP, Capex is still being paid off, and profits are low because you have to sell at an aggressive price.  The purpose of the OG xbox was brand establishment and it was successful.

As for the NES, there is a reason 9/10 gamers will say it is the most impactful console in gaming, what it did cannot be considered the norm, but should be celebrated for the outlier it is.  As a rookie Jordan average 28 points on 52% shooting but expecting other rookies to do that is crazy.    

Sony, good for them for being ready to take advantage of an opportunity, but I do personally think they got luckier than they were skilled.  Sega via the CD, 32x, surprise launch of a super expensive Saturn..  lol, Sega committed suicide.  Nintendo arrogantly stuck with cartridge, which was expensive.  Make a N64 game with carts being $15 or make a ps1 game where CDs were $0.50?  Sega was dead and buried, Nintendo was too expensive, so everyone went Sony.  Again, Sony deserves credit for being prepared, but my lord did the big two just stupidly hand the market over to the Sony.

Google and Apple want into gaming, so did Amazon..  yet none were successful.  MS did establish xbox with the OG.  It was a successful console.  

The 360 had a lot more going for it than Halo though; Halo certainly helped, but also had other killer exclusives like Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock, etc plus crucially it offered a more affordable and usually technically superior way to play almost all the big third party games like COD, at a time when the PS3 was prohibitively expensive and got mostly inferior ports.

It wouldn't have sold quite as much, but the 360 would still have done well without Halo, it wasn't a one trick pony.

the 360 was more Halo, but Halo established as a must own system seller.  I would argue stuff like Jade Empire/KOTOR/Morrowind set the stage for expectations for Mass Effect.  I will maintain, may have to agree to disagree, the OG made it clear this was a 3DO venture; MS was serious and worth considering as a main player.