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Norion said:
NoLimitVito said:

All this "expert takes" on marathons failure is all based on refreshing steam chart players numbers every minute.

Ok lets see -

Grounded 2 - less than 3k players on steam ATM.
Sea of thieves - less than 7k players on steam ATM.
Halo infinite - less than 3k players on steam ATM.

The Finals - 14k players on steam ATM.

Marathon - 22k players on steam ATM

All way below Marathon numbers so I guess those are all gigantic failures based on the obsession with steam chart numbers logic? but let me guess somehow steam numbers don't matter for these other live service games only marathon? what's even funnier is half those games I listed is FREE TO PLAY and still has less player numbers than marathon that is $40.

That's a really bad comparison since Marathon is just a month old and Grounded 2 is the only one among the others that isn't years old. Exactly a week ago it peaked at 36k but now might dip below 20k in the next few days so if the player base doesn't stabilize soon then things will be looking very rough for it in a few months, let along a year from now. Dropping below 30% of its all time peak in just a few weeks is not a good start.

That excuse doesnt work, CSGO is over 10 years old and has 500k + players , Apex is 7 years old and has 100k players, Rust is over 10 years old and has 100k player. so why is it an excuse for halo infinite / grounded / sea of theives etc to be doing less than marathon player numbers yet CS and APEX are older than them?  Mean while arc raiders is taunted as a "success"yet its gone down from 450k players to now below 100k in just a few months since its release thats over 60% players lost is just a short time.

All this further shows is how baseless all the steam charts player number doom and gloom posts are. it doesn't guarantee anything.

To throw more baseless steam chart numbers in comparison - Frag punk - has less than 2k steam players , The division 2 - has less than 10k steam players, FF14 - has less than 20k steam players. Yet they are still live and running for years. How can they survive for years but yet according to people here having 30k players on steam charts is a failure and doomed.