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JEMC said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

One thing I will say about the xbox leadership shake up is while the brand is at its lowest point, I will give credit to Phil from a pc gamer standpoint. Before he took over, xbox felt very anti-pc with many key games skipping pc entirely. Thanks to Phil, not only are xbox games coming to pc, they are coming on release. On top of that, gamepass is also available on pc which while I don't use it, I know a few people that do.

I'd also argue that because xbox was bringing its games to pc, it gave reason for Playstation to bring theirs over as well. I am sure Valve helped in someways too so that Playstation wouldn't have to pay Microsoft by releasing their games onto steam, perhaps at a lower % cut for valve.

So while Xbox didn't really get another life under Phils leadership, I am thankful for all he did with pc gaming. We will see how the new one does things but I am not all that hopeful.

There's more to the story that just Phil brought games back to PC, tho.

The big drop in sales from the Xbox360 to the XboxOne forced MSoft to find another source of money to pay for the development costs of first party titles, because those costs went up (as they always do despite what Epic and other engine makers say everytime they release a new one). Launching their games on Playstation was a no-go back then so PC was their only option.

There is also DX12, which MSoft had to develop to fight the small resurgence of OpenGL thanks to AMD's Mantle. MSoft had the incentive to launch DX12 games on PC to showcase what their new API was capable of.

And last, but not least, we have to remember that what MSoft tried to do at first was to launch their games only on the MSoft store, bypassing Steam. That's what they did with the first remaster of Gears of War and I think also the Halo Collection, which years later go a Steam release. It's only because they failed to move enough units that they conceded defeat and started to put their games on Steam as well.

And while the whole XboxOne disaster was caused by Don Mattrick, Phil was in charge when the other things took place.

So yeah, Phil and MSoft didn't go back to PC and PC gaming because they wanted, but more like because they had to, and only by the way gamers forced them to do.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Lenovo reportedly ends driver updates for Legion Go based on Ryzen Z1 Extreme

https://videocardz.com/newz/lenovo-korea-reportedly-ends-driver-updates-for-legion-go-based-on-ryzen-z1-extreme

Way too soon imo

Do we know who's at fault here? Some articles claim that it's Lenovo that has stopped with the driver updates, while others say that it's AMD that is no longer giving third party vendors like Lenovo and Asus with new drivers, and that's why those third parties don't launch new drivers as well (they need to be tuned by the manufacturer to accomodate for the different power profiles they went with).

While I do agree with you in regards to the xbox financial situation, I do think a lesser head of xbox would have gone many different routes before moving their games onto PC. And yea, Steam wasn't their primary choice but I wouldn't blame them myself for trying to make Microsoft store a success before moving their games over to steam. I just think that based on the actions of a lot of CEOs, Phil still did the better option vs many other worse options that he could have done. Look at how long it took for EA to embrace steam vs Origin.

As for the Legion Go article. It's hard to say at this point. I have seen some articles blaming AMD but I am not convinced which is why I chose this one instead. I'll wait for official statement or a better source.