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Kyuu 2 days ago
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Louie said:
Kyuu said:

Switch 2 and PS5 situations are nothing alike. Switch 2's sales did slow down to levels below the original Switch outside Japan where it's sold cheap. There are also legit concerns about cartridges, prices, and the RAM and tariffs crisis.

Trolls and console warriors claimed PS5's first two years sales were inflated by scalpers with some saying they wouldn't be surprised if as many as half of the shipped consoles were controlled by them lmao. So no, not everyone thought it was an indicator of success. You just pay Nintendo haters more attention than the other haters.

In the end haters and trolls are just a loud minority, and not every wrong or stupid or embarrassing prediction is automatically the result of hate. If you looked at certain channels on Youtube and other places, you would have truly thought that Xbox was going to massacre Playstation this generarion. Small cults of morons are all over the internet.

But that's actually a perfect example of what I just said. Switch 2 didn't slow down, it just had a relatively low Black Friday week due to a lack of attractive bundles and thus relatively low November sales. And then, because the PS5 outsold it during November, people all of a sudden (after a single data point!) claimed the console was slowing down.

However, it's been like that for ages: Playstation sells best in November and Nintendo consoles sell best in December. I've seen the same stuff being argued since 2006, when I first started lurking here. I've been here in 2007 when the Wii was "bombing" because Mario Galaxy didn't lift sales into the stratosphere in October and November... but oh, December sales were great. Again, it's a never-ending cycle. 

The fun thing is: Nobody on this forum, not a single Nintendo fan (at least to my knowledge), said "Playstation 5 sales slowed down massively in December!"... even though that's exactly what happened if all you look at is November vs. December sales. Is the PS5 doomed? Can the PS5 only sell with steep discounts? Are gamers questioning its value? Are there "legit concerns" about its future sales due to external circumstances? Because the data clearly shows it slowed down massively in December. (Of course, this is total BS and PS5 sales are totally fine - but again: double standards)

And just to hammer the point home: It is no reason for concern if Switch 2 outsells PS5 all year, but it is a reason for "concern" if PS5 outsells Switch 2 in a single month. Suddenly, the Switch 2 is doomed. We even had one poster saying "October might have been the last month ever for Switch 2 outselling PS5" lol. But Nobody doomed Playstation from June to October or in December. 

A similar argument that is always brought up when talking about Nintendo consoles "slowing down" is that "Nintendo has no games announced for this year"... which has been the case every year for a decade now. Nintendo never unveils their holiday titles early (at least they haven't since the early Switch days).

Playststion home consoles are more consistent sellers so "doom" sentiments will naturally not be as common as on Nintendo's consoles, which fluctuate a lot more gen on gen. Again, even Nintendo's own fanbase are infamous doom posters. Your comparison is moot.

Outside Japan, Switch 2's sales are declining against Switch 1 (months aligned). It had weaker first November and December than Switch despite the better deals (relative to base price) and Switch brand being far more recognisable today than it was in 2017. No, this is NOT a "doom post", because:

1. It could easily bounce back in the coming weeks/months/years, especially seeing as how Switch 1's 2nd year was relatively week until November.

2. It may as well sell half what the Switch 1 sold lifetime and still be a major platform in my view. A console selling 70 million+ is far from "doomed".

Several users here and on other sites posted what you call "doom" posts against PS5 throughout the years, including comments about its poor November and December performance in the US last year. And a few frequently make all sorts of absurd predictions. Switch 2 got most attention because it had an explosive start that dwarfed Swirch 1's, but it quickly declined to a level below it from November onwards. It was bound to cause more reactions than a conole in its 6th year.

I guess from certain users' perspectives, I'm a Playstation "doom poster" because I predicted the PS6 (including the handheld) to only sell 85 million units.

It's okay to say "Switch 2's sales slowed down more than I expected".

Define "doomed".