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Cerebralbore101 3 days ago
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Louie said:
160rmf said:

My post is open letter for those that instigated and surfed on the frustation of actual Nintendo fans since beyond that time, I know for sure that they were rejoicing themselves lurking on this thread, watching their current fans being fully negative for what they think it would be the final Nintendo attempt on hardware business. That the company that they invested so much time in pulling to the ground is finally done for good.

They know who they are and it is so funny to see ones that remained, now having to content themselves in pulling stunts to give some stealth jabs, but dealing with frustation because Nintendo is thrieving like never before. Probably they have some cognitve incapacity to understand that their negative narrative is way pathetic and hipocrate than can get.

Before you continue to imply that i am pulling these characters from my imagination, I will give a few words to spoil another thread from that time filled with fine examples:

"Mark my words: This is bombing harder than Wii U"

Yeah, I think it has to be said that a certain subset of the "core gamer fanbase" is and has always been exceedingly negative towards Nintendo. I know there is negativity towards Playstation and Xbox, too. But with Nintendo, certain people always predict nothing less than their total downfall. I was there when the Wii was revealed, this has been going back at least 20 years. Actually, it's been going on since the Gameboy days, when handheld sales "didn't count".  What's especially crazy is the moving of the goal posts whenever Nintendo is successful:

"Handheld sales (and Pokémon being a worldwide phenomenon) don't count, thus Nintendo is trailing behind Sony / MS!" (GB, GBA, early DS days)
"This will be Nintendo's last console!" (Wii, Switch)
"The success doesn't count because it's just a gimmick / Only casual gamers buy this, therefore it doesn't count." (Wii, DS)
"Current sales are meaningless, sales will fall off a cliff / are already declining" (Switch, Switch 2)
"The success doesn't count because third party games don't sell on Nintendo consoles" (Wii, DS, early Switch days)
"The market leader is the one with the highest profit / revenue, not the one with the highest sales." (*) (Switch, Switch 2)
"My stationary home console has more power than this handheld, so the Switch 2 just sucks and is a last generation console." (**)

(*typed on a MacBook Pro, a machine sold by the undisputable market leader in the personal computer business, Apple Inc.)
(** Guess your bodybuilder dad is a newer generation than you, because generations aren't measured in time but in power. Basically, if he has more muscles than you, then you are his daddy)

It's annoying, because it's a never-ending circular logic. And it's also a double standard: People do not constantly predict the downfall of Sony (which would also be ridiculous), for example, even though Sony's more recent console could never get near PS2 sales, the PSP was beaten by the DS, the Vita flopped and the PS3 lost them billions. It's just tiring at this point. Right now, the Switch 2 is literally the fastest selling console ever, and we still have many people downplaying it.

"Nintendo had a bad Holiday Season and AI is going to make the price rise too high." -Arlo

^This is the current narrative. A narrative that ignores how far ahead Switch 2 is over Switch 1 in its first year. It also ignores that everyone had a bad holiday the game industry. 

KrspaceT said:
KLXVER said:

Yeah, they price their games and accessories a bit high and dont like when people steal their IPs. They are basically Hitler...

You joke, but I legit wonder at times if Nintendo not liking fan games and having exclusives is seen by a loud subsect of (mostly PC) gamers as worse than anything done by Ubisoft or Acti-Blizz to their employees. 

Like I should not be able to say that, but when I do I'm left wondering how much I am exaggerating. 

It is. They put up with Denuvo. They put up with digital-only copies and microtransactions. $80 Mario Kart is too much and highway robbery, but $70 CoD with $10 skins, battle passes, etc. that quickly adds up to $120 is just fine. Switch 2 at $450 in 2025 is highway robbery. The entry-level Steam deck at $399 in 2022 is fine. Game-Key-Cards are the devil and anti-consumer but digital-only PC games are fine. (I hate key cards and digital-only equally, but for a lot of PC gamers the new narrative is "F Nintendo because GKC are anti-consumer and we also love Steam for digital-only!")

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