Which crashout was worse, Sega or Xbox?

[Cerebralbore101]

Chrkeller said:

Cerebralbore101 said:

I've been pointing out since 2019 that Xbox has never been it's own division and has never once stood on its own two legs. Xbox fans have tried to point to financials but that is pointless when Azure and personal computers are lumped in with the Xbox brand. 

In hindsight the claims of Gamepass being profitable was just MS accountants getting loose with PNL data. 

Sega on the other hand had a couple of decades of profitability as a game company. They've existed since the 60s after all. 

I don't know. Maybe Sega did fall further because they were a real game company and MS never was. 

Everything Sega made except the 32X was a good console with a good library. And they never just relied on 3rd party games the way that MS and Sony do these days. They were prolific with their own game releases. 

this is why I view Sega as the biggest crash and not MS, and not Atari.  With the Genesis there was a real question on who was going to be the name in gaming.  Sega or Nintendo.  Sony took it from everybody, but Nintendo held their ground.  Sega went from competiting as a potential top dog to an absolutely nothing in such a short period of time.  

Well, I mean, Atari pretty much had a monopoly and then poofed out into nothingness. But yeah, Sega disappeared in a short 7 years, while Xbox has just lingered on since 2013. I guess my main point in this thread is that I'm far more excited to play Sega systems than I am Xbox systems. And with some key business changes I could see Sega being the one to survive and not Nintendo, or Xbox. 

Master system just needed its best games to come out in all regions.

Sega CD could have worked as a CD-Variant of the Genesis and not an add-on. $20 Greatest hits CDs of Genesis classics would have been amazing on it. 

Saturn really just needed to not surprise launch and to be sold in Target, Wal-Mart, Bestbuy, etc. Only being available in Toys R Us and Babbages was a death sentence. A ton of Saturn games never came to the west but that's because Saturn sold so poorly here that there was no point in bringing them over. Sega still would have lost the 5th gen to Sony but they could have made N64 the 9 million unit failure instead of Saturn. Saturn ending 1999 with 20 million units sold and then a more powerful Dreamcast launching in 2000 would have changed things for everyone. 

Dreamcast just needed money. That's it. Just money that Sega didn't have. Money that a successful Saturn would have provided.