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Soundwave said:
Pemalite said:

I did make a correct educated guess on the number of CUDA cores, what SoC architecture (Tegra Orin over Thor or Xavier) and RAM and it's target TDP of 10w.

I had actually said in the early Switch 1 days that I hoped that Switch 2 would come with 16GB of Ram to let the SoC breathe with RT and DLSS without sacrificing the OS/background tasks. Instead... Nintendo reserved the DRAM for the OS at the expense of RT and DLSS, but realistically expected 12GB for cost reasons.

I never made any assertions on storage (As I don't care, I run physical) or display (I just wanted 8" or larger).

And again... Leaks and rumors and educated guessed are pretty pointless, they have been proven to be wrong in the past, they will be wrong in the future... You can only ascertain their legitimacy after the fact with hindsight.

If you try and pass rumor/leaks/educated guesses off as fact, you are simply an idiot.
I could have been wrong with my guesses. But I wasn't.


Soundwave said:

Virtually any Ampere chip can run PS5 tier games, hell probably any Turing based chips too.

You are not running it like the GPD Win 5.

The Ampere chip in the Switch 2 is not like higher tiered Ampere chips.


Good admission that you don't have a relevant rebuttal. I'll take the win.

Soundwave said:

You want to gatekeep what defines hardware categories and say everyone has to adhere to what you think, no thanks I don't agree with your assessments or conclusions. Switch 2 keeping pace even with things like $1000 portables tells me what I need to know, already having a lot of high end next-gen games confirmed for the system also tell me what kind of hardware it is.

False.
Switch 2 performs like a low-end console like the Xbox Series S.

It performs like a mid-range handheld... The GPD Win 5 is a high-end handheld and it obliterates all other handhelds in the handheld space.
It's almost a generation ahead of the Switch 2 in performance and graphics.

It's not really a custom chip. It's semi-custom. The ISA and everything was done for nVidia DRIVE/IoT/Professional/Developer/Signage and Edge platforms.

It definitely punches above a PS4, Cyberpunk 2077 is all the evidence you need for that.




I would say in on-screen game performance the Switch 2 performs like a $600 portable device or better (like a ROG Ally, definitely better than the $550 Steam Deck) from what we have already seen, likely we will get examples of game performance possibly better than that as time goes on, docked I would say it's actually better than a ROG Ally. I don't see anything on the market that gets that performance at $450 in that form factor. 

To get tangibly better performance than a Switch 2 in that kind of a form factor right now you probably have to go spend like $800+ and accept a chunkier, bulkier device. I'm not even sure $800 would do it, you might have to go up to the $1000 XBox branded ROG Ally X and the Switch 2 can even hold its own against that.  

For Joe/Jane Average buying a Switch 2, they should feel very happy with the hardware they're getting for that price, you're getting to play games anywhere you want at a level of performance that would cost you significantly more elsewhere and that certainly hasn't been the case for Nintendo hardware for a while (Switch 1 could kind of pull it off, but Switch 2 is already showing itself to be far better at running next-gen games).  And for the size of the Switch 2 ... those portable PCs would need likely several die shrinks to match that size/thinness that Nintendo/Nvidia were able to get that performance from 8nm. 

It is a custom chip, the x-ray of the chip showed it to be very different from the Tegra T234. 

A GPD Win 5 is $1500-$2000 device, and requires the battery to be external (so like a fat brick sitting outside the machine), good for the 5 people in the world who will own one, you might as well get a gaming laptop if you're going to spend in that price range, that thing is pointless. For $2000 it still doesn't even have an OLED display either.

Please. Shut up. This is beyond off topic. Not even sure why a mod has fed into this for so long. 



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!