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Norion 6 days ago
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Pemalite said:
Norion said:

AMD's upscaling has gotten good enough that being behind isn't as bad now though it'll be hard for me to recommend an AMD GPU going forward unless it has a great price and the long term support gets a lot better. RDNA 3 isn't as bad as RDNA 1 but that lineup is gonna age notably worse than the RTX 40 series. RDNA 4 is a step in the right direction though so hopefully they have a Ryzen moment with their GPUs in the coming years.

UDNA is coming... Rolling the best parts of RDNA4 and CDNA into one architecture instead of a bifurcated approach should mean GPU hardware development resources can be focused on a single uArch now... Will still take a few years to see the true benefits of that however.

The issue for AMD is actually their mobile hardware... Still stuck on RDNA 2/3 isn't doing them any favours. - And a big reason for that is simply the transistors.

The RDNA4 RX 9060XT is at 29.7~ billion transistors.
The RDNA3 RX 7600XT is at 13~ billion transistors.
The RDNA2 RX 6600XT is at 11~ billion transistors.

They all have the same 2048 shaders each.

So an increase of 2.5x - 3x the transistors... But only a rough doubling of performance isn't great for mobile chips that are sensitive to chip sizes.

I wouldn't be surprised if AMD goes straight for UDNA and skip RDNA4 completely for mobile hardware...
Intel Panther Lake is set to upset this market a little as well, Intel has done a brilliant job maximizing their use of transistors for their mobile graphics solutions and is bringing technology to reduce shader compilation stutter by pre-compiling shaders server-side, dynamic multi-frame gen and low latency upscaling.

I do hope UDNA is fantastic one reason being that'll help the next consoles out since the more capable they are at RT and neural rendering the better. It's a shame they didn't bother competing at the high end with RDNA 4 since with how disappointing the 5080 is there was a nice opening for a GPU with that level of performance and 24GB of VRAM while still being somewhat cheaper.