| EricHiggin said: I do realize, but do you? Do either of us? Does anyone here? Not everyone responds to situations the same, as you said earlier, just like how not everyone see's things the same. Having enough, preferably all the evidence, before making up one's mind about exactly what transpired is a good start. Not everyone agrees with that either though. |
That's why there are police procedures and de-escalation training that has to be followed.
As more keeps coming out it becomes more and more clear that the only threat the two women posed was a threat to his male ego. Normal procedure is for the police to tell you to get back in the car and move on, clear the street, or risk being cited for obstruction. (You can hear one officer tell them to move in the background at some point, conflicting orders didn't help)
There was no need for the officers to escalate the situation in the first place. He should never have drawn his gun, no imminent threat. The only 'threat' to them was they would drive off, they would have to file paperwork and a judge would likely simply throw out any charges of obstruction. (Since they would have left when asked by the officer that told them to move)
If you can't keep your calm in law enforcement it's not the job for you. This incident is as much on their supervisor and training as it is on the shooter.
All the evidence is out there, just watch the videos from different angles.
Yes the passenger told her wife to drive away. She'll have to live with that for the rest of her life.
Jonathan Ross needs to be taken off the street, he's a danger to society. He was off the mindset to teach these women a lesson. Drawing his gun for no reason, yelling at them to get out of the car, then endangering himself, his partner and bystanders by firing point blank at the driver while the engine was running and her foot was on the gas pedal.
Do you think taunting the police or disobeying (conflicting) orders warrants lethal force or even drawing your gun in the first place?
There are many orders the police give people that you're not legally required to follow. Police overstepping their reach is a huge problem. Giving impunity for killing simply when orders are not followed will only make things worse.
