November 2025 VGChartz Estimates Thread - Worldwide Out Now

[Sephiran]

Mummelmann said:

It looks like the Switch 2 pricing strategy was a bit of a miss - with the console market being in dire condition overall (yes, in spite of the PS5s record month in Europe, things are rather grim overall), there's no proper room for several expensive machines aimed at similar demographics. And, as someone mentioned above me; it will only get worse.

I saw someone in another forum making comparisons between the 90s and now, geared towards game and gaming prices. The argument is usually that, when adjusted for inflation, gaming is cheaper today than it was back then. What many fail to take into account is the immense rise of cost-of-living - around these parts, during the same period that average income doubled, housing prices have sextupled. Electric bills are also soaring (I'm paying about 150% more this fall and winter compared to last year), and groceries have increased immensely in price in only 2-3 years. When essentials rise quickly in price, and stay there, we cut luxuries, streaming services have also felt this in their ledgers. 

The Xbox numbers are insane, I never imagined they'd be this low at this point in its life. Granted, I didn't think MS would manage Xbox One numbers when all was said and done, mostly due to the above mentioned factors, but this is really sad stuff. 

I don't envy the marketing team at Valve when they try to release the Steam Machine into this mess next year.

I think they made a mistake on the specs, there is no real need for Switch 2 to be able to run games like Assassin's Creed Shadows and Star Wars Outlaws, first, AAA games will either not come out on Switch 2 at all or be late ports, which means those games will always sell mediocre on Switch 2 and it also means those AAA third party games won't lead to any increase in the appeal of Switch 2. If they had worse specs on Switch 2, that would be enough for Nintendo's own software (Which is the only real draw of Nintendo consoles) as well as making it an easier buy for families due to the price of the Switch 2 being lower. Nintendo should just have made a Switch 2 a system that is an upgrade for Nintendo games as well as playing indie games better than Switch 1 did, launching a system that is able to run some AAA games is just a waste, because those games will still only be bought on PS and Steam, where the audience for those games are.

As of now, Nintendo went with a strategy to get people that like AAA games into Switch 2, that won't be succesful because AAA fans will still not care about playing those games in a downgraded 30 fps fashion on Switch 2, they will just buy them on PS and PC instead. Nintendo's own games obviously doesn't even need the Switch 2 specs, because they will not use stuff like DLSS and all the other things that the Switch 2 is capable of.

Last edited by Sephiran - on 19 December 2025