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sc94597 said:

I suppose strictly, yes, these other aspects are important if we were just looking at a total crime statistic and not also the breakdown by crime type. Crime is reduced because what we defined legally as a crime has reduced to match the moral views of the population. But also things that are unambiguously crimes have also actually reduced. And the most severe crimes have reduced the most drastically. There is a reason why the nativist population in the U.S are trying to paint a picture of undocumented immigrants as rapists and murders and not serial larcenist, drug addicts. 

I am not sure what inequality in America has to do with an assessment of the state of Britain. Although I guess inequality has also increased in Britain, so something might be there. 

Donald Trump is not just painting immigrants to be murderers and rapists. He is also painting them to be gangsters, thieves, people taking tax money away from others, and, especially, drug traffickers. And, again, despite one crime being bad individually compared to another crime, it is important to inspect the gross impact of lesser things on the country as a whole. Even when such things are legal, because the legality of something doesn't lessen its impact on the community. Take social media use, for instance. Higher social media use, despite its legality, has a significant correlation with adverse mental health conditions.

While an individual using heroin or fentanyl isn't as bad as an individual murder, those individuals using heroin and fentanyl outnumber murders (by a significant margin), so discounting them as if they aren't the same thing is incredibly dismissive as to the impact it may have on communities.

Well oh darn, look at me embarrassing myself thinking he meant America lol.

Last edited by Doctor_MG - on 25 November 2025