Mummelmann said:
JRPGfan said:
I just tried here, in Denmark on a pc shop I like to use. new Parts (but cheapest, equal or better than steam machines)
rx 7600 ~1900 kr Ryzen 5 3600 ~340 kr Asrock MB ~370 kr kingston fury beast ddr4 dual kit 16gb total ~670kr pc case ~200 kr psu ~200 kr cpu cooler ~150kr ssd NVMe ~180 kr
= ~4000 dk kr / ~600$
That is without keyboard/mouse/OS.... just a case + hardware, but beating the Steam Machine in performance. You can do that for like 600$.
That's with you paying consumer prices, that enables the hardware store to make profits selling them. Valve can buy parts much cheaper than you or I, as consumers can, from stores.
I'm curious what does "AMD Radeon RX 7600" + "Ryzen 5 3600" + "cheapest DDR4 dual kit (16gb)" cost in sweden? if you look at a shop that sells them cheap? (I listed the prices above, from the shop I picked)
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currently non black friday prices (here):
PS5: Slim Digital (fc 26 bundle) 3899-3999 kr (585-599$) PS5pro 2TB FC26 bundled: 6399 kr ( 958$ ) Xbox: Series S : 2699 (404$) OG Switch (oled) 2699 (404$) Switch 2 (w/ mario kart world): 3999 kr (599$)
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Denmark doesn't have a chemical tax, it makes quite a difference.
The Steam Machine has DDR5 RAM, 16GB of DDR4 can be bought for around 80-90$ here, but 16GB of DDR5 is 140-150$ and up. The cheapest RX7600 I can reasonably find is around 300$. As for the CPU, a 5600 is closer in performance, I can find some for around 150-160$ (5600X). I could get these three components for about 600-ish dollars, maybe 570-580 with deals and looking around more. The cheapest 2TB M.2 drive I can muster is about 130-140$ on top. With a basic motherboard that still allows for HDMI 2.1 or DP equal, a PSU, chassis and smaller details, I'd be hard pressed to get a build for less than 850-900$ around here, and that's pushing it, it would also mean picking the lowest possible configuration in several areas (motherboard, RAM, M.2, PSU). A more realistic tally is closer to 1000$.
I shop at computershop.se (Swedish branch of a Danish vendor) sometimes, they have decent prices from time to time, I actually bought my monitor there in 2023.
I remember buying the 980Ti for around 750$, and it ruled the world. Those were the days. Looking at prices now makes me sick. A single flagship GPU costs two-three times what an entire, decent build did a little over a decade ago. My 980Ti rig from 2015 was around 3000$, including monitor, keyboard, and mouse (so about 2400$ for the rig itself). My 4090 build from 2023, with a similar performance profile for its time, was around 7000$, all things included.
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