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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
JWeinCom said:

When you said that "nobody was saying that" and I pointed out someone was saying it in the exact comment that OP was responding to, that is indeed moving the goalposts, on that point. Your overall opinion on the matter may remain unchanged, but on that particular point your original position was proven wrong and the goalpost was initially moved. 

I'm just going to address this part because as I've said multiple times - I'm not personally invested in this issue and I don't particularly care - I did not say that to begin with. My post to you was: 

"But you don't know that's what people are upset about. From my experience, people are upset because they already paid for the game just 2 months ago and now are asked to pay more. Whether it was developed by the same developer or not, you're still being asked to pay again in very short order. I could be wrong, but that has been what I've seen most frustration with and this thread also seems to reflect that, given that many posts are saying that they'd be fine with it if it came out 6-12 months later than it did. Who developed it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant - the fact that the content is totally ready so short after launch makes it feel like it was held off on from release, regardless of who made it.

That's how it looks to me anyway. Again, I don't have a personal horse in the race, I just don't think that argument at all addresses the issue people actually have. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but almost every post I see seems to reflect it."

The part that you're caught up on is probably my next post which said: "When it doesn't seem to be what anyone in the thread is saying" ... which I still maintain to be the case, based on the posts that I highlighted. If you disagree, that's fine, but even the post you showed had the person point out in his very next post that the developer difference (which apparently isn't even true it turns out) doesn't matter to him. 

I don't know why you're putting words in my mouth, but I am not going to defend things I never said to begin with. I never said "nobody said this", I said "this does not seem to be the general sentiment based on this thread". Especially when I said multiple times that I could be wrong and I was just basing it off of the vibe I got from the thread's posts. I've been consistent in my statements, I've stayed consistent, and staying consistent - I am also not interested in continuing this conversation. I don't think it's a good argument, you do - and that's fine. I'd like you to apologise for insulting my intelligence and coming with completely unwarranted hostility, but since you totally glossed over that part I'm guessing that won't happen. Have a good day, I guess. Hope you don't jump at everyone you see online like this, because it's thoroughly unpleasant. 


I do not believe I have addressed your overall intelligence. I have explained why I think your ability to follow logic and threads is suspect. So, no, I don't see the need to apologize.

Another prime example in the above post. You said "it doesn't appear to be what anyone in this thread is saying". If it doesn't appear that anyone in the thread is saying it, then it must appear that nobody is saying it. That is a direct logical negation. If there dont appear to be any apples on this table, then it must appear that there are no apples on the table.

So, why would you complain that I am putting words in your mouth? We can add paraphrasing and logic to the list of areas in which you are demonstrating a deficiency. 

The reason I am fixated on that point is because if there is a fundamental flaw in somebody's ability to engage in a conversation, then that has to be addressed before anything else can be discussed. If I show clear evidence that something you said was wrong, and you are still going to insist it's right, than it is kind of pointless to address anything else. If you would have said "Oh I guess someone is saying that, but that's not the general sentiment", then we maybe could have proceeded pleasantly.

Or maybe not, because as was pointed out several times, that is the exact comment he was responding to, which is why his comment was relevant in context. That has been explained several time to you very clearly and been ignored several times, so either you are unable to comprehend or incapable of honest conversation. Sorrynotsorry.

It's like if someone says, "there's doesn't appear to be a white dog in this room". You point out that there is a white dog in their lap and their response is "I never said there was no white dog in the room". I'm not sure how any conversation on that is going to be pleasant. I don't know how to politely respond to that without calling the person's honesty or intelligence into question. Getting called out on bullshit probably isn't a very fun experience. For the bullshitter at least. I myself had some very hearty chuckles.


Last edited by JWeinCom - on 03 October 2025