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Ryuu96 said:

Machiavellian said:

Left this, right that, at the end of the day all you are doing is exactly what has been done before.  Picking a side and then going about the blame game.  Someone killed Charlie Kirk because they did not like him just like someone kills someone ever day of the week because they do not like someone.  Someone will die everyday because someone doesn't like someone and it really have nothing to do with left or right BS.  In America, we solve problems with guns and we will continue to solve problems with guns because that is the culture of this nation.  For a person who himself promoted hate, you seem to be ignoring that he put that target on his back but somehow its the left calling him names that is the issue.  The issue is that someone had access to a high powered sniper rifle and was able to use that to kill someone while you wring your hands on finding a way to blame the left, ignore the right and ignore Charlie Kirk own words that put him in the sights of someone who disagreed with him to the point where they felt to put him in the grave. 

Probably wasting your time, that user tends to make a couple angry posts every few months then vanishes for a few months, ignores all of Trump's shit over those few months, then only pops back in when they can make another desperate attack against the left, then vanishes again. Charlie Kirk was not tame, and it wasn't a simple "difference of opinion" like disagreeing with a Conservative over economics and while I maybe wouldn't call him a Nazi, he was still a disgusting person who demonised trans people, gay people, showed no sympathy for other victims of shootings and spoke shit about them, attack MLK and Civil Rights, and supported Israel's Genocidal Regime so fuck him. Getting mad about people faking empathy when Kirk himself said it's a mad up word, Lol.

Don't recall this user being this mad when a right winger killed a Democrat earlier this year or even showing their face. At least he didn't forget the registered Republican who tried to assassinate Trump though so I'll give him credit for that one. The single truest thing out of all of this is America has a major gun problem and people shouldn't be so easily capable of acquiring rifles they can fire from 200 yards away, Lol. But nothing will change and more gun violence will come because America is inherently a violent country.

We should be talking about the school shooting instead of a shitty podcaster.

Which one...

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

https://everytownresearch.org/maps/gunfire-on-school-grounds/

In 2025 there were at least 98 incidents of gunfire on school grounds, resulting in 31 deaths and 96 injuries nationally.

Not updated with the latest one yet.

Evergreen High School shooter dead from self-inflicted gunshot wound
https://www.cpr.org/2025/09/10/evergreen-high-school-shooting/

To call it as it is, (attempted) murder + suicide.

The student who opened fire Wednesday at Evergreen High School, injuring two other students, died Wednesday night of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office said. One student remained in critical condition, according to doctors, while another had non-life-threatening injuries. The sheriff said the shooter was a 16-year-old male.

‘Colorado has lived through this pain too many times’

The Jefferson County Education Association, a teachers union in the district, said in a statement that every time a school shooting happens, it retraumatizes the community that lived through the Columbine shooting in 1999.

“Colorado has lived through this pain too many times. We cannot become numb. We cannot accept this as normal. We demand that our leaders at every level — local, state, and national — take real, meaningful action to end the epidemic of gun violence in our schools,” the association’s leaders said in a statement.

16 year old kids should not have access to guns. The parents are punished enough by his death, not something you ever get over, yet the blame likely lies there as much as the school not noticing trouble brewing. 

Gun laws work, there were 5 school shootings in all of Europe in 2024

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
For each of the last four years there have been more than 600 mass shootings - almost two a day on average.


As for Kirk's death, that only makes things worse. Assassinations only radicalize people and gives ammo to left/right nonsense. 

Again it comes mostly down to lobbying. While most Americans seem to favor stricter gun laws (57%) the opposite happens since the gun lobby spends a lot more than gun control groups.