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JRPGfan on 07 September 2025
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Zkuq said:
Shaunodon said:

As long as AMD don't Intel/Xbox themselves over the next couple generations, I honestly think people are seeing the wrong side of things.

AMD have had their best gaming GPU launch in a long long time. Even though it was only a small step in the right direction, they've shown they at least know the right direction to move now.

Nvidia won't be giving a shit about gaming ever again, despite what some people still seem to believe. The ego of their CEO 'wanting to dominate' or whatever won't mean shit to shareholders considering the magnitude of their overall corporate value now. They will only be chasing the maximum possible value and trying to keep their stock rising as much as possible.

All that to say, the gaming space will be the easiest starting point for AMD and possibly Intel to start clawing back market share and mind share. People saying this terrible 50 series launch for Nvidia didn't make much of a dent aren't seeing the big picture. Sure, one terrible launch isn't enough to shake the foundation they created amongst gamers, but gamers aren't suckers that will just repeatedly take getting punched in the nuts generation after generation.

The more AMD gain in the gaming GPU space will then have the obvious flow-on effect for helping them advance their workstation/database tech and software, until eventually they or someone else can gain some parity with Nvidia in the future.

The market doesn't simply allow monopolies to run away with an unbeatable position when they show obvious disregard for their consumers and even national laws/security, not unless those monopolies have a lot of protection from the public sector.

Sorry, but I don't share your optimism. As long as AMD doesn't become a significantly better option, I don't see the road to a healthier market being a short run. I don't think most gamers are going to be abandoning Nvidia in favour of AMD unless AMD is a significantly better option, if even then. Sure, there will be change, but it'll be slow and gradual. Of course that's assuming AMD is a better option in the first place. If Nvidia keeps having better generations than AMD as often as has been the trend lately, it's only going to get worse, and I wouldn't trust AMD to constantly outperform Nvidia. I just don't think Nvidia is that incompetent and AMD that competent. I hope I'm wrong, of course, but right now it's one generation where AMD has displayed any significant amount of competence, and Nvidia has dominated the others.

Even when AMD offers better value (gpu performance pr dollar) (or driver stability, or cards that don't have wires that melt ect), 
it doesn't really do much for their sales.

Like even today there is this:
NVIDIA Drivers are aging like fine MILK! (from JayzTwoCents)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcQ2tLLNLo8&pp=0gcJCcYJAYcqIYzv


So I don't share his optimism either.

Nvidia brand is too strong at this point.

They are like the richest company in the world... or top3 or something right?
They tower over AMD in that reguard, and can afford to spend 10x on R&D, and sending people out to force their tech into companies/games.
Its a cycle that keeps competitors down.

nvidia has been found cheating in benchmarks, and purposefully implimenting tech in ways that hurt amd cards,
so their advantages seem bigger than they really are.

This is just like Intel was using all these kickback programs, and keeping AMD out of laptops and desktop OEMs,.....  Nvidia does not play fair.

Zkuq said:

Regardless of what you think of Nvidia, that is NOT a healthy market.

It's a monopoly :p

Someone should force nvidia to open source CUDA and DLSS.
(even if FSR 4, is just barely upto DLSS levels now.... overall I think it would be more healthy for the gaming space if every gpu could just run dlss)

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 07 September 2025