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Pemalite said:
Kyuu said:

Everyone knows that those $80~ billion (revenue, not profit) aren't attributable to the Series consoles. They're mostly the result of acquisitions and transformation to a gigantic 3rd party publisher. It cost them over $80 billion to get there, meaning their net gaming profitability will be in the minus for a very long time. All MS has is its sheer ability to brute force, which is gained from their dominance outside the gaming industry and has absolutely nothing to do with their consoles.

Sony gaming's revenue (popularity metric) even after MS gobbled up half the market (hyperbole intended) remains comfortably higher. And Nintendo's profit margins (success/efficiency metric) are on a different level. We have no clue how much profit (even when acquisition expenses are excluded) MS is making from gaming, and even if we did, the Series consoles are factually not responsible. MS gaming is not restricted by the failure that is Series X/S.

I never made the assertion that was profit from the Xbox Series consoles alone. Hence why I said "Gaming Division" and not "Console Sales".


Your 2nd paragraph used the $80 billion MS gaming grossed as an argument for Series being a success. Xbox console and software sales have been declining since the Xbox One, and profitability is unknown. It's a failure in most relevant and known metrics.

The Xbox platform may soon disappear (merge with PC and be dwarfed by Steam). Won't matter to Microsoft much now that they're easily the biggest game software company among the "big 3". Tencent is the only platform holder that rivals them in this metric.