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Kyuu on 07 September 2025
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Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I feel like Starfield was the system's last chance to prove its viability; after that game combined with steep holiday discounts failed to move the needle, it was essentially over and MS threw in the towel.

Leynos said:

This is why the GameCube was not really a failure. Nintendo made a profit. Xbox did not. Xbox outsold Gamecube.

21 million sold is pretty much a failure I'd say, especially when your competition sells 160 million and your previous system sold 32 million.

Only if Nintendo never managed to turn a profit from the platform... Which ironically is probably hard to quantify over the long term as many of the Gamecubes best games are some of the best games of all time... And Nintendo has remastered/re-released them generation after generation and made money from those titles. I.E. Metroid Prime on Switch being a prime example.

Microsoft Series even though it's only sold a fraction of the Xbox 360 consoles, is still a success as Microsoft has made a profit on the platform. (Their gaming division since the Xbox Series Launched has raked in over $80 billion.)

Everyone knows that those $80~ billion (revenue, not profit) aren't attributable to the Series consoles. They're mostly the result of acquisitions and transformation to a gigantic 3rd party publisher. It cost them over $80 billion to get there, meaning their net gaming profitability will be in the minus for a very long time. All MS has is its sheer ability to brute force, which is gained from their dominance outside the gaming industry and has absolutely nothing to do with their consoles.

Sony gaming's revenue (popularity metric) even after MS gobbled up half the market (hyperbole intended) remains comfortably higher. And Nintendo's profit margins (success/efficiency metric) are on a different level. We have no clue how much profit (even when acquisition expenses are excluded) MS is making from gaming, and even if we did, the Series consoles are factually not responsible. MS gaming is not restricted by the failure that is Series X/S.