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OlfinBedwere said:
Branko2166 said:

I would argue that the majority of men in particular consume films and video games as an avenue for escapism. Hitting them consistently over the head with overt politics defeats the purpose of watching said material.

That argument works right about until you remember that the 2019 Joker movie was such a big hit because it was so overtly political, and one of the biggest reasons why its sequel flopped so spectacularly was that it turned its back on the message the first one was seen to be pushing.

.... or because... it was it turned into a musical?
They didn't respect the source material, and didn't appeal to the same audience that made the fist movie great?

This isn't a political tone or not issue, its the messaging and source material stuff.
Guys don't want to see a emasculated guy, being boss babied around Joker, that's singing and dancing thoughout seemingly aimlessly.

They f***ed up the formula to success they had.
which again, leads back to the topic at hand.... they seemingly don't want to try to appeal to men.
Even the Joker folie a duex, had to change, for f*** all knows why, and sales dropped.