Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:
People say that shit all the time and generally they are full of shit.
Once the novelty wears off (which will be fast), you'll be left with a lot of complaining. There are plenty of industries that are largely American run still, you can go to one likely right now in 2-10 minutes to support them if you wish. Restaurants are basically American workers (wait staff, cooks, etc.) and even a lot of the food supply (even for a company like McDonalds) is from the US.Â
Go ahead. Even places like Dennys and iHop that were affordable 10-15 years ago for a lot of people is becoming more and more expensive, ain't no one sitting there going "well that was $25 for breakfast per person, but it sure was nice paying the salary of an American worker!" ... lol. Less and less people are eating out though, don't see any patriotic surge to go out there and help those home grown American workers. You can even tip them a nice 15-20%, but most people also complain about that. You're welcome to go to bars/pubs and pay $8+ a drink too.Â
There isn't an employment problem in America to begin with. Unemployment was low under Joe Biden. It's a wage problem, people want higher wages and higher quality jobs, but that means more expensive goods. And hate to break it to people but working in a fucking factory 12 hours a day making shoes or even iPhones sucks ass. A lot of Americans don't want those jobs any more than they don't want to pick fruit outside 12 hours a day in the blazing sun. Immigrants will do that job because it's above the salary they would get in their country, people in Asia will work for $2-$4 hour with 16 hour shifts and no medical/dental, but Americans don't want to work even minimum wage for soul crushing work.Â
Making iPhones (or Playstations) is dull, repetitive work that requires long hours stuck indoors, in Foxconn factories in China at one point the conditions were so bad that they had a problem with employee suicides. These are not glamour jobs.Â
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It won't off for me. People need jobs. Someone being unemployed carries more weight than having to save an extra few months for console. Â
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Go eat out for dinner every night too and be sure to tip 20% for the wait staff. Gotta support local workers.
The fact is most people complain about the costs, you are being naive in thinking "well it'll just be a few extra bucks for a few items". It's going to become a lot broader than that.
There isn't even an employment problem in the US to begin with, 3.6% unemployment that was achieved under Biden is the lowest in the US in the past 4+ decades. Anyone is free to go pick fruit for minimum wage right now or clean houses or go work in a day care for minimum wage. A lot of people don't want to work dog shit jobs for dog shit salary. In America, minimum wage is dog shit salary. There's no lack of shit jobs here though.
Making iPhones and Playstations is a shitty job, don't get it twisted, just because using those products is fun doesn't mean making them is fulfilling work, anymore than making a Big Mac should be fun because eating them is fun. Again in China Foxconn literally had to install netting around their factories to prevent employees who were trying to kill themselves. Yeah I'm totally sure people will be lining up around the block for these kinds of shitty jobs when a lot of people won't do the many shitty jobs that are available to them any time.
Here is the US unemployment chart too, you see a spike in unemployment during the 2008 financial meltdown which started under Bush Jr. and then a steady decrease in unemployment during the Obama years which has essentially continued with a brief spike during COVID under Trump. In Biden's term, the US hit all time low unemployment in the last 70 years.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
Last edited by Soundwave - on 21 August 2025
