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Torillian said:
Chrkeller said:

Because not all of what you (and others) are claiming can be true.  Pathetic you can't see that.  

Ran a great campaign, well liked platform, excellent messaging...  lost on all levels of government...  how that sounds reasonable is just dumb.  

To me this would be like losing the super bowl by 30 points and claiming the losing team had no flaws.....  while also claiming the winning team was heavily flawed.  It is nonsensical.

You keep claiming that certain social services are unpopular in the Midwest particularly and when shown evidence against it just ignore it and move on with your day. This is what I am referencing. 

Surveys, having done a bunch myself, depend on how the question is asked and how well the sample distribution represents population distribution.  Not something I would hang my hat on.  Plus gross over interpretation.  If 53% voted favorable, the means 47%, at best are neutral (e.g. not a selling point).  Last I checked 47% is a huge percentage.  Also I'm talking about feelings in middle America, not general America.  Middle America is where most swing states are.  

But fine. For the sake of argument.

1) great platform that the majority love

2) great job of talking to the people and cascading messages 

Yet lost on ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.  LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.  DID NOT WIN A SINGLE SWING STATE.

Please explain how this is rational thinking.  And people got dumber from 2020 to 2024 is an asinine position.

I would love for someone to actually try to address the points above.  I've mentioned it many times and nothing but crickets.  Which tells me everything I need to know.  You all don't have an explanation and refuse to do any reasonable analysis because of herd mentality.

Edit

I'm not being entirely fair.  Machiavellian and Zorg have provided additional rationale, so credit to them.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 19 August 2025

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