Sydney Sweeney does an ad for jeans, media throws a hissy fit

[Chrkeller]

zorg1000 said:

Chrkeller said:

You forgot about a 5th group.  Low income workers don't expect others to pay their bills.  Many people in the US would benefit from free college or Universal healthcare, but don't want it, because expecting others to carry our burden isn't part of our core belief. 

Many Americans genuinely believe in boot straps and simply don't want a charity based system.  Unless somebody has lived and experienced America, this is a hard concept to explain.  I know plenty of people who absolutely would not take money even if helped.  There is a pride aspect to taking care of ones self.  

For many middle Americans, social support is considered charity and being offered charity is offensive.  Many would rather live a modest life than reduce their pride by taking from others.  

This is a huge part of American culture that too many here, whom never have experienced first hand, simply don't understand.  

The idea "they dumb" is ****ing nonsense and reeks of ignorance.  

People in the Midwest don't want liberal help.  They are a very prideful group of people who are well aware of what liberals think of them.  Hence they vote the way they do.  

*I've lived 40+ years throughout the Midwest.

I’m sorry but this isn’t true, “middle America” loved “handouts” from the 1930s-1960s when the middle class was created through the use of progressive taxation to pay for investments & regulations in worker rights, safety net programs, healthcare, housing, education, agriculture, manufacturing, infrastructure, scientific research, environmental protections, etc.

During much of this time, black people were denied the benefits of these investments until the Civil Rights Acts were passed and now all of a sudden they were entitled to all the same benefits that white people were used to. Republicans seized on this and were able to frame black people as lazy, welfare queens that do drugs and commit crimes while taking away your hard earned tax dollars!

Two quotes exemplify this, “when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" and “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

*I’m a 33 year old working class, white dude who has lived in the rural Midwest my entire life

Lol, we live in 2025...  wtf does 1930 behavior have to do with the price of beans?  

To a large degree I don't get your point.  I'm talking about how people feel and behave today, and your "proof" I'm wrong is how people felt and behaved 60 to 90 years ago?  

Reminds me of when I tell someone global warming is real and they deny using the ice age as proof.

At the end of the day this thread could go on for lord knows how long, and nobody will be changing their mind.  

People insist voters are dumb because they don't want to accept liberal policies aren't as popular as they been trained to think and the DNC couldn't have possibly screwed the pooch more with Biden.

Granted I will be told I'm wrong.....  like I was for months leading up to the election...  

Edit

As someone already pointed out, Harrison received 12,000,000 less votes than Biden.  12,000,000 people suddenly didn't 'get dumb' in that time period.  Many simply do not agree with the liberal platform.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 18 August 2025