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Qwark said:
Chrkeller said:

In the US, many advanced degrees in STEM are free.  My MS in chemistry was 100% free and that is very normal/typical.  

And yeah, no doubt we are not playing well with the world today, we need to do better.  The US is flawed, no doubt.  But after living in the UK for a number of years, returning home made me a lot more grateful.  The US has a lot of opportunity and isn't near as bad as people make it out.  Just my experience.  I always tell people I left for the UK as a liberal, returned as a conservative (but very middle aisle).  

Fair enough I don't live in the US. But I know that US and Europe are not alike. EU is also flawed it basically is a stagnant bureaucratic mess that desperately clings to its old position in the status quo. The only thing we seem to do well these days is not let our debt explode.

The US is the land of dreams, however if you fall down don't expect much help. EU is the other way around. Yes the weak get help, but there is little to dream and gain these days.

The continents is economy is stagnant. Or as ASML director once said. Europeans are fat, lazy and happy. And compared to the rest of the world, minus the fat part in US that's true. European focus on happiness is making the continent become less relevant.

Wholly aligned and I think that is exceptionally fair, at least based on my experience.  Europe is much better for middle and lower class than the US.  But for those who can climb the mountain, US is fantastic.  Really depends on if a person wants guaranteed safety or wants a potentially high ceiling of success w/o safety nets.  I will have to say, not trying mean, but EU red tape drove me absolutely mad.    



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