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sc94597 said:
redkong said:

Problems with these comparisons is the 40fps modes are very unstable and no VRR they are not a good experience to people that care about performance. Then these framerate comparisons are not great for example before the bench marks released for Cyberpunk DF would have us believe that the 30fps is on par with Series S quality mode, it's clearly not and even behind the PS4 pro. They even say that Hogwarts run more stable on ps4 cause they checked one area where PS4 ran more stable. Then i see video of apex legends dropping to 40fps in intense battles on switch 2 so it wildly variable they are not doing a deep dive in these old games.

https://youtu.be/Ff-ZINFEu4o?si=-0rsRwtRdLNcBvPh&t=769

This is a very copey response. The base PS4 also doesn't have VRR support and has the same issue for its unlocked frame-rate games. At least in the Switch 2's case this isn't a hardware limitation, but a firmware one which can be corrected. One of the caveats DF mentioned with the PS4 Pro having seemingly better performance than Switch 2 is that the HDD loading issue can relieve the CPU-load as the CPU waits for assets bottlenecked by the HDD (basically, the multi-dozen second pop-in issue.) So it isn't clear that the PS4 Pro is in fact doing the same amount of work in the same set of frames to make the comparison like-to-like. 

The video you shared for Apex shows a very smooth 60fps. There are long periods (2000 - 4000 frames or ~30 seconds - 1 minute) with no drops, and then when it does drop it decreases very smoothly for about 30 frames and increases again very gradually for about another 30 frames, lasting at most 2 seconds. 

Compare that to the PS4 (base) version which often stays in the mid to high 40's for hundreds to thousands of frames at a time (there is a segment in this video that it's in the 40's and low 50's for 400 frames/8 seconds :24 - :32, vs. about the 0.5 - 2 second bouts of mid-50's in the example you provided for Switch 2.) 

I agree with you it's difficult to compare cyberpunk, lets not forget shadows are much higher quality on the PS4/pro and that's one thing most switch 2 and series s lower down to get better performance. In general one could prefer the pro version cause it seems to run better it's nothing crazy. It's not a big step up. We'll how to wait till we get VRR because as right now the experience is not good. Even in handheld it's working right at the moment in most games.

As for apex legends that video was 6 years ago the game might run much better now. Here is another video of apex legends and even the Series s drops frequently, just saying we need  proper comparisons to see how much better it actually runs. For example in the DF video they say its mostly 60fps on pro and PS4.

Last edited by redkong - on 14 August 2025