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curl-6 said:
Vodacixi said:

I admit that maybe I got a little too extreme. It's not JUST RPGs and 2D games.

However, some of the games you mentioned, while completely playable, REALLY show their age in their controls. This is especially obvious with Banjo and Ocarina for example. Sure, they are functional, but we've come such a long way since then that playing things like Super Mario Odyssey or even something not so new like Wind Waker and then going back to Banjo and Ocarina... I don't know, it doesn't feel great. Banjo and Ocarina were regarded (and still are by many) as some of the best games ever, but I would argue they haven't really survived the test of time.

This doesn't happen if you jump from Metroid Dread to Super Metroid or from A Link Between Worlds to A Link to the Past for example. The 4th generation (generally) has aged better due to having simpler and more down to science controls and pixel art.

I would also argue that some of the games you mention, while being 3D, don't work all that different from their 2D counterparts, so it's natural that they don't have the quirks of early 3D games. Star Fox, Panzer Dragoon or even Crash Bandicoot ARE 3D games, but most of the time they play and work essentially as a 2D games.

Those are still very much 3D, they simply take place within a linear space. Personally Ocarina or Banjo still feel fine to me. Obviously they're not as smooth as something from 2025, but they hold up in my opinion.

There are inevitably growing pains whenever there's a paradigm shift such as 3D. The sense of discovery and excitement made it a great gen regardless.

Yeah, that's why I said they are indeed 3D games. It's just that due to their genre or perspective, they don't play too differently from a 2D game, which makes nailing the controls much easier. 

Maybe I should have clarified: most 5th gen games in which you control a character freely in a 3D enviroment have not aged all that well.

Of course, there was a "period of adaptation" in order to make 3D gaming work well, and most games, even the masterpieces, show that struggle. I'm not trying to shit on the entire 5th gen... It's just that I feel it's easier to revisit or play for the first time 4th gen games than 5th gen games.

And yes, regardless of how those games might have aged, it was a great time to be a gamer. Personally, the N64 felt like magic. Until then, I just had been playing some NES and GB games (mostly Ice Climbers, Mario and Pokémon). Playing something like Donkey Kong 64 or Pokémon Stadium was absolutely incredible to 6-7 years old me.