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Mnementh said:

Machiavellian said:

That is not winning because once the government gets involved then you see a slew of regulations start to drop and you cannot control all of it.  People think its easy to regulate governments and laws by corporations but its not.  Corporations never want anything regulated and I have never seen any corporations trying to get any laws passed for regulations.  If a law is passed they would want the least amount of regulation as possible because it never makes sense having to jump through a whole lot of hoops and red tape to get things done.

Big and established companies want regulations that make it harder for new and upcoming companies to compete. They sometimes work with lawmakers and often it is then some bureaucratic bullshit big companies can implement but that slows new ones down a lot.

True this can be the case but then would it not be better to just not involve the government period and just out price and lowball your competition out the market or deny them support from vendors and other services they would need to compete with your product.  Meaning which would be the easier method towards success.  Trying to bride multiple law makers hoping to get a bill through that would be obvious anti compete law which can easily be overturned or just use the good old standard play that most big corps have been doing for centuries.

Machiavellian said:

Also what corporations would want any of this age verification laws.  You would have to sell me on who does it actually benefit and what industry and why because for the life of me I cannot think of one.  All your data is already out there on the web and all the data you use to access anything is there for the picking without any need for some age verification. 

Yeah, that seems not in favor of any company. But it could work out for the bigger ones once they establish some verfification system, because again the new companies will face extreme risk with this law.

In this context every company faces risk with this age verification system.  In this case everyone will either have to develop something that conforms to the new rules or use 3rd party companies like is recommended in this rule which is a another cost to do business and a overhead that needs to be managed.

I guess to narrow down my point is that I hate to generalize anything because then it adds bias to our opinions and narrow the scope of our perception on things.  I just believe its very easy to say "Its the government and corporations out to control us" than to actually break down the situation and look at the pros and cons.  In this particular situation I cannot really see any real upside to this on a corporate front because nothing in this age verification helps any corporation that I can think of.  It sounds like more overhead they need to do and manage with no upside at all and a cost they have to account for.