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Shaunodon said:

Machiavellian said:

I am not conflating any issue, I am ask you exactly who is it that you are directing your ire at as I stated.

You say these laws have nothing to do with protecting children and I ask you this question, where is your proof of that or is this just a feeling.  I am not denying that is the case or not but what are the examples you have that this was not a measure put into place because of abuse that has happened.

So you are saying these laws were instituted by corporations and law makers wanting your personal data.  I do not believe I agree with this because they pretty much already have your data if you ever bought anything online using their services you already provided said personal data.  I do not know but this seems to be a reach here to me.  There are so many ways that your personal data is already online and available to be cross checked and verified already that there really isn't any real need to make a law to do so. 

What exactly would be the gain from the corporation side in this particular situation.  What personal data that they are asking for they can use for whatever purpose?

I honestly can't tell if you're naive or just willing to do play Devil's advocate regardless of how far it takes you. Either way I can see this going nowhere already.

This is just the first step and the tip of the iceberg. If people don't defend their rights now, it's destined to only get worse in the future.

Naive, no, just do not buy it when someone says "Its the law makers and corporations trying to control me".  At some point in time this was always going to happen.  Meaning regulations of the internet and content, the fact its taken this long is more a bigger wonder.

Personally, I see a clash between corps and law makers here which is why I continue to ask you who is it you are directing your ire.  You seem to believe this is a collusion between law makers and corporations and I only see it as law makers trying to control the internet and find more ways to identify and track you.  A unregulated internet is way better for corporations than a regulated one.  Way to much red tape and hoops they have to go through if they want unfettered access to you, your data, buying habits you name it.  Corps do not care about you the person, they care about you the customer and how to get into your pockets.

On the other hand, Law makers care about you the person, especially when looking for ways to identify, track and find you when they believe you have done something wrong.  Its much better for law makers to regulate the internet and find ways to track and identify you so when you perform something that goes against their laws, you are much easier to find.