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[shavenferret]

the-pi-guy said:

shavenferret said:

They can move elsewhere.  Israel should pay for the buses to cart them away if things are so bad that it's like a concentration camp or something.  But this would never work, because they want to stay there, and be angry because they are kept out of control.  If they don't like that, then they should leave.

Yeah, because other countries tend to be so welcoming to literally millions of immigrants. 

And unfortunately the people that tend to get hurt the worst, tend to be the ones with the least ability to move. 

shavenferret said:

It was the Hebrew people's land before it was the people that the palestenians came from.  Secondly, Israel is trying to get other countries to accept them according to your link.  T hey aren't just being mean stern jews that won't let them leave, that's just not true Svenno.  Like you said, the issue is that other nations won't accept them, mostly because how many of them are terrorists and such.  If they were wealthy and smart like the israeli's then as well as not problematic (many know how to blow people up or use an AK-47), other nations might want them.  But having a mass of the poor, and unwashed isn't something you want to bring to your country so i get it, however unfortunate this may be.

1 - a lot of the Jewish people left, either forcibly, or on their own choice centuries prior. Like 1500 years prior. 

2 - that was also how Nazi Germany operated. They were trying to push other countries to take the Jewish people first. That was their first plan, before not enough countries would take them. So calling what is literally the Nazi playbook "not just being mean stern Jews" is problematic to say the least.  

It's their ancestral homeland and the hevrews and jews have every right to be there. The Palestinians can live there but they will live under the Hebrews. This has to be the wah it is because of all of the violence and so forth. Finally, your point about the nazis is a bunch of hogwash, and actually what you call a fallacy. 

Because X does this, if Y also does that then that is evil of Y. No, you have to examine each action and it's quite ironic to compare Israelis to nazis.