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LurkerJ on 27 July 2025
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Ryuu96 said:

Thomas Massie's voting record on Ukraine is horrifically bad.

  • Massie was the only member of Congress to vote against a measure refusing to recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea. Basically he wants to officially recognise Crimea as Russian.
  • He was one of three members to oppose a March 2022 resolution supporting Ukraine's sovereignty after it was invaded by Russia. The resolution also called for an immediate ceasefire.
  • He parroted the baseless conspiracy theory (from Putin) that Ukraine was developing biological weapons.
  • He opposed Sweden and Finland joining NATO.
  • He was one of nine to vote against a House Resolution which condemned the illegal kidnapping of children from Ukraine by Russia.
  • He voted against the Ukrainian Lend-Lease Act of 2022.
  • Voted against Ukraine Supplemental Appropriation.
  • Voted in favour of striking $300m of assistance to Ukraine.
  • Voted in favour of prohibiting all security assistance to Ukraine.
  • Publicly in favour of USA leaving NATO.

Statistically he is the worst US Congressman for Ukraine, likely the most pro-Russian. It would be one thing if he was just one of those heartless "We shouldn't be funding Ukraine, they should pay us" but his objections go beyond even that, it's clear he not only doesn't want to help Ukraine at all, but he also wants to dismantle NATO and hopes Russia wins in Ukraine, willing to officially recognise territory Russia stole from Ukraine as Russian.

With Trump I am conflicted whether he was/is just a complete idiot when it came to Ukraine, whether he was just a coward when it comes to Russia, whether he was a Russian asset or whether Russia had blackmail material on him. But Massie is far worse, I've no doubt that dude is a straight up Russian asset. I see he is also critical of Israel and voted in favour of lifting sanctions on Iran plus voted against military action on Iran.

it's not a bad thing to be critical of Israel, or want to lift sanctions on Iran for better relations, or being against stupid military action on Iran. But I don't think he's in favour of those things because Israel is being a genocidal maniac, I don't think he wants to lift sanctions on Iran to help make it a better place, I don't think he is against military action on Iran because it is wrong, I think he is in favour of all of those things simply because Iran is Russia's strategic ally. He has also voted against sanctions on North Korea.

Thank you. I certainly don't know the guy. And I only mention him because he seemed to be triggering Trump recently, which is obviously a very superficial way of favoring someone.

as for Trump, I feel like his stance on Russia can be mostly explained by his expansionist ambitions, he's probably happy for Putin to do whatever he wants to do as long as the USA gets a bigger piece of the pie and Americans get to hollow out Ukraine of its natural resources, and only angry when those ambitions clash with Putin's. 

Trump is a true capitalist. He looks at the evil around the world and his first question is not how to solve it, but how he can capitalise on it to his own/USA's corporations' advantage (of which he is certainly a major shareholder).

"Oh, look at all the destruction in Gaza and these starving people, I am going to turn it into an American Riviera in the Middle East, So go ahead, Netanyahu, finish the job, drive them all out. I have some real estate business to run"