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the-pi-guy said:
thehunter said:

Just a curiosity question: when was your first post on this board expressing concern about the Epstein files and bringing those involved to justice on behalf of the girls who were violated?

Probably never. 

What context would I say something like that?

I assume most people here think that rape is wrong but I doubt most of them have explicitly talked about it. Some of them might even be avoiding the subject because they find it triggering to talk about. 

Most of the posts that I make here are in response to either news or another poster. 

The biggest reason for me to express concern about releasing the Epstein files is if someone (poster or politician) were to say that we shouldn't. I would disagree with them. 

I'm not even convinced that there's a smoking gun in the Epstein files, the way that people talking about. And I don't see the point in posting "hoping for justice" into the air. 

Conservatives have been making claims about the Epstein files, they're the ones who need to back those claims. 

It feels like Political theater, that the Trump admin is suddenly now pushing on Ghislaine. 

By your same questioning, if the Trump admin really cared, why didn't they talk to her months ago? Strange that you don't find that to be "politically expedient." Why did they need pressure to finally push for justice? 

That's fair, and answers the question sufficiently.  Thanks pi guy.

To return the favor, I find it troubling that suddenly many people who say it as a wacky conspiracy have suddenly decided to champion the cause since it reeks of TDS-fueled political expediency.  I'm not saying that the Trump/Bondi/etc thing isn't political theatre; it clearly is to anyone who's paying attention. 

But objectively, this is just more of the same from everybody (most politicians, pundits, the media and the fanboy/girls rallying for 'their team').  The same, that is, except that the Overton Window is now being shifted to the point that we're willing to make hay over the forced rape and trafficking of minors.   

That this happened is now not in dispute: Jeffrey and Ghislaine didn't go to jail for nothing, with the former actually making it through her trial and conviction; the girl who was in the terrible photo with Prince Andrew is now gone after mysterious circumstances took her life; and there's also the matter of those portraits that Epstein had of Bush Jr and Clinton in unflattering depictions.

I do wish that many people who are glad that Trump might get sucked up into this now -- after ample opportunity for his political enemies not just to do damage to him through it, but also while they were trying to charge him with anything short of a traffic ticket which would stick him in prison -- would see the forest for the trees here and put their partisanship aside just long enough to fight alongside those on the right in a show of unity unseen since 9/11 to confront a clearly perceived evil. 

This is bigger than any one President.  It's bigger than the political system in the west itself and points to the growing body of evidence which we've been getting for years that human trafficking of minors has become quite the business among the elites, unless you think Taken was just a crazy idea that the studio which knew what Harvey Weinstein worked around made up.

I don't know if we can get the full truth now.  The FBI has had far too much time to doctor people in or out of the evidence in order to satisfy their own goals.  If we don't confront the great evil of a pedophile ring operating in our nations, the abuse of innocent children it brings, and the lies created to surround it, regardless of who the guilty parties are, our civilization will have richly earned its own demise and destruction.  

Justice must be done.