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thehunter said:

Thanks SvennoJ.

I'll take that as a gesture of goodwill.  Here are a few of the key MAGA folks going after Trump for breaking his Epstein files promise:

Tim Pool: https://youtu.be/NLx8iKF15ug?si=kCOObuAe_Jbx3WhG 
Doug Wilson: https://youtu.be/XwWFnuls814?si=Afsb2t0mkyAD8byF
Alex Jones: https://youtu.be/29AniQj3TGw?si=LlBFl5EI7LW7pVI

It unfortunately shows that there a few folks here, like pi guy, who don't have any exposure to people who think differently than they do in their lives.  It's a shame because they would find, if they engaged with others, that the MAGA electoral alliance isn't a uniform cult. (to paraphrase pi guy: not 50% of the country is in on Trumpism just because they voted for him)

It's dishonest to suggest, as pi guy did, that the right is not self-assessing.  The evidence is pretty clear if you just look at how Congress has behaved during the last 20 years:

Republicans tolerate dissenting voices like Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Mitt Romney.

Democrats, in contrast, have a track record recently of expelling those who don't pass the purity test: Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr, and John Fetterman (in-progress, admittedly).

That's only one example and one which all of us evil Democrat, Socialist, Leftist, Communist have already pointed out, as a rare example of MAGA actually turning against Trump. Congratulations on providing the one example that we've already provided and have been speaking about in this thread. Now lets see how long it lasts or if they'll come up with an excuse soon to fall back under Trump.

Republicans tolerate dissenting voices like Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Mitt Romney.

Is this a joke? Lmfao. Mitt Romney was a more traditional Republican and was utterly ripped apart by MAGA for being like that, even though Mitt Romney himself has some awful views, it wasn't good enough for MAGA because he didn't kiss Trump's ring. The MAGA cult labelled him a RINO along with any other Republican who didn't bow down to Trump.

There's a reason why the only time a Republican in House/Senate goes against Trump it's when they're heading for retirement, only then do they suddenly grow a spine, because anyone who dares to speak out against Trump gets viciously attacked by his lunatic cult. Republicans are now split between the MAGA cult, the fiscal Republicans who may not agree with the fascism but don't care as long as they make money and then more moderate Republicans who are terrified of speaking out against Trump.

How was Tulsi expelled? There's no procedure for expelling her from the Democrat Party. Did you miss when Tulsi Gabbard talked a ton of shit about Trump only a few years ago and likewise Trump her? Now MAGA is suddenly defending her because she kissed Trump's ring, showing how much of a massive hypocrite and two faced "Democrat" she was. Tulsi Gabbard is a pro-Assad/Putin idiot who is desperate for power so she'll throw away all her morals and principles to achieve power, hence why she threw in with Trump who even recently said he doesn't care what she says, Lol.

RFK Jr is a anti-vax moron and John Fetterman is a rude little twat too.

A few posts ago you said this...

thehunter said:

As I've said earlier, those on the right or in the MAGA movement are at least honest enough to criticize their own when they do something wrong or hypocritical.  

In stark and condemning contrast, I'm not holding my breath for folks on the other side condemning Bill Clinton's trips to the island or that the Democrats allowed an autopen to run the US for four years.

Now you're suddenly upset with Democrats who criticize their own?

thehunter said:

I don't know if you were born here or not, but I've experienced the leftism which you clearly admire first-hand: the lies, the manipulation, the poverty and yes, the murders.  

All these things happen in right wing countries too, Lol.

thehunter said:

You cry wounded cat regularly here and demand others support their positions with citations or links but you can't seem to measure up to your own standard, let alone the expectation that the US shoulders on its citizens to, as Ben Franklin put it, keep the republic.  How many Chinese, North Korean, European, South American and Caribbean residents would risk life and limb to have the experience you enjoy tonight as you selectively look to score political points and dismantle the system that millions in the rest of the world envy?

If you're going to make the claims then you should back your claims up. Pi-Guy does that just fine, meanwhile you're complaining about being asked to do it.

thehunter said:

How many Chinese, North Korean, European, South American and Caribbean residents would risk life and limb to have the experience you enjoy tonight as you selectively look to score political points and dismantle the system that millions in the rest of the world envy?

Damn, the arrogance, Lmao. America is the greatest country in the world and every single country wishes it was America. Speaking as a European, I'm very happy I'm not in America right now. You clearly just look down on those in China, Europe, South America, etc. Most European countries have it just fine, America shares the same issues as every other country; Poverty, Murder, etc. It's not some unique utopia that you're trying to make it out to be.

Having said that, I'm sure Hungarians would love to have the American system that Trump is trying to dismantle and turn into Hungary 2.0

thehunter said:

Again, do yourself and your fellow Americans a favor and start asking folks who voted for Trump what they see their aim as and those from other parts of the world why they're clamoring to get here.  In closing, I'll borrow a favorite leftist line: educate yourself.

We already know.

Clamouring to get there? Tourism to America is tanking, Lol. If tourism is taking such a harsh dip then you can bet your ass that so is people wanting to live there fulltime.

You make claims that are easily refuted, that is why you moan about having to provide sources, maybe you should educate yourself.