Epstein

[Ryuu96]

Tober said:

Ryuu96 said:

I'm not really sure what you're saying here, are you proposing that the US secret service are the ones who are preventing it from being released because they fear America would collapse if it does? I'm not sure what the comparison is to Operation Northwood which was a proposal to stage and commit acts of terrorism to justify a war with another country (lying to go to war isn't new to America, Lol).

I think some of these takes are a bit extreme, the idea that the United States would completely collapse and the people would revolt against the entire government because there's a few rich and powerful nonces is a bit much, Lol. A lot of people in the UK already run under the assumption that Prince Andrew is a nonce and the Royal Family is still around and he still gets privileges. A lot of Republicans already been saying for years that Democrats are all pedos, a lot of people already believe Trump is one.

Sure it's one thing to believe and another to have proof but it just feels like a weak reason to justify not releasing the list, the United States won't collapse because there's a few dozen rich pedos, a lot of people already assume there are a lot, they just don't know who. Those found guilty will resign in disgrace and people will vote on a replacement, it'd probably need to be at least 50% of government to cause a collapse and that is extremely unlikely, especially when 99% of current House Dems just voted in favour of releasing everything, Lol.

Hypothetical offcourse but let me use my imagination:

Let's say the entire Epstein thing is a Mossad operation to blackmail US powerbrokers to keep sending billions to Israel in military aid and other things.

Let's say Mossad would have proof that 9/11 was a false flag operation where the US killed their own civilians to ensure support for the middle east invasion (Hypothetical offcourse)

Now let's say Mossad would say if the Epstein thing would go public, it would release this prove that the US killed their own (again Hypothetical).

Shit would hit the wall. 

As I said, just hypothetical, but something about all this reeks to me like there is more going on then rich people being pedo's.

Often the most simple explanation is the true one, Lol. If you think about it, FBI and DOJ have both handled the Epstein case, under both Democrat and Republican administrations, likely dozens of people are implicated and likely dozens of people have receipts and dirt on each other, I think it's just a simple matter of self-preservation.

I know it's a hypothetical but America doesn't need an excuse to be a cuck to Israel, they do it for free, Lol.

If anyone had some extreme level of blackmail material on America, why wouldn't they use it to get whatever they want? Lets say Russia had the blackmail material, then why wouldn't they have used it to prevent America from helping Ukraine? If Israel has the blackmail material, why wouldn't they have used it to get America directly involved in their wars and just wipe out Gaza/Iran like they clearly want to. You could get America to do anything if you really had this level of blackmail.

But also in this example, I know it's just a hypothetical but I'm just saying, Bush was President 16 years ago and isn't in office anymore, a previous admin doing something sick and being exposed at a later date won't be enough to cause Americans to overthrow their government and a societal collapse, it's not exactly rare to find out a previous administration did horrible shit and we already know they lied about the WMDs to justify a war. Tony Blair in UK is despised and a lot think he should be in prison and yet...! It'd have to be something fairly recent which affects a majority of current politicians to cause the public to overthrow and society to collapse.

I think people will largely just pressure those involved to resign and then wait to vote. And no offence to Americans but I seriously doubt Americans even have the stomach to completely overthrow their government and cause a societal collapse, especially not over what will likely be maybe a few dozen nonces and not a majority of all current serving politicians, I think we're overestimating how many people are nonces here.