Tober said:
Ryuu96 said:
There's only really two possible scenarios. 1. The Trump admin lied about there being a list or rather, files, which implicates a lot of people, they lied for political capital and to goad on the Qanon/Pizzagate nutjobs. They lied about "having it on their desk" and lied about promising to release it. They lied about basically everything to do with the list/files and it never existed in the first place. 2. They didn't lie about there being files which implicate a lot of people (but still lied about promising to release it) but the reason they won't release it is either it implicates themselves or implicates their allies/friends, so they're protecting themselves and/or protecting their friends. It's extremely unlikely after years of work by the FBI/DOJ they have fuck all on Epstein's associates, they likely have thousands of files investigating his connections. I also lean towards #2 because in the current shitshow, the best of two awful choices for the Trump admin right now would be to simply admit that they lied about there being a list for political gain. They could have just made some bullshit up about how the Democrats in Biden's term shredded everything and so the Trump admin has to start from scratch, that will shut his fanbase up for a few years. Instead they've gone from "There's a list" to "We have the list" to "There's no list" to "The Democrats made the list" to "Shut up about the list!" to now straight up insulting his supporters. What's likely is that there's simply a lot of very powerful people who all have their own receipts and dirt, in essence there is a lot of people with their own "mini-nuke" and anyone who fires their "nuke" first will cause MAD because the rest will then expose their dirt and receipts in revenge. It's powerful people protecting each other, not because they care for each other but due to self-preservation. There's obviously not some master list like "All My (Epstein) Pedo Friends". But there is definitely a lot of files which would implicate a lot of people if exposed. |
What of there is a third option. What if it was a US secret service operation all along. That it was something akin to Operation Norhtwoods. That releasing all the info would cause a US revolt against their government and subsequently a collapse of US society at least for a while and no-one wants that on their watch. With both Dems and Rups tiptoeing around this, I think there are some real skeletons and dark pits. For referencce, source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods |
I'm not really sure what you're saying here, are you proposing that the US secret service are the ones who are preventing it from being released because they fear America would collapse if it does? I'm not sure what the comparison is to Operation Northwood which was a proposal to stage and commit acts of terrorism to justify a war with another country (lying to go to war isn't new to America, Lol).
I think some of these takes are a bit extreme, the idea that the United States would completely collapse and the people would revolt against the entire government because there's a few rich and powerful nonces is a bit much, Lol. A lot of people in the UK already run under the assumption that Prince Andrew is a nonce and the Royal Family is still around and he still gets privileges. A lot of Republicans already been saying for years that Democrats are all pedos, a lot of people already believe Trump is one.
Sure it's one thing to believe and another to have proof but it just feels like a weak reason to justify not releasing the list, the United States won't collapse because there's a few dozen rich pedos, a lot of people already assume there are a lot, they just don't know who. Those found guilty will resign in disgrace and people will vote on a replacement, it'd probably need to be at least 50% of government to cause a collapse and that is extremely unlikely, especially when 99% of current House Dems just voted in favour of releasing everything, Lol.
