The Pro Wrasslin' Thread (WWE, WWF, WCW, TNA, ROH, NWA, NJPW, etc)

[Jumpin]

JWeinCom said:

Jumpin said:

Sure. But it's not so much the what and the how of a ruse, or getting fans to. The thing that I'd question is the why? Does it build up Seth or his stable (I'm a bit out of the loop) to take him off TV to surprise people weeks later? Does it gain him more heel heat? Does it help build anyone else? Is there really any entertainment value for the crowd that they can't equal or exceed by handling things other ways?

There are other mechanical issues. If Seth takes the Smackdown Championship at Summerslam, then that breaks his stable since (as far as I know) they're on RAW and Cena/Cody are Smackdown.

I don't watch the show anymore/right now, Maybe I'm missing something.

The why would be because it makes it easier for him to cash in if the champs think he's out. And the less unexpected the cash in the more people usually enjoy it.

I think we should agree to disagree. I'll just give my reasoning with what I hope is greater clarity:

I don't a very strong reason so much as a trick pulled out of a hat of tricks. And this trick doesn't build Seth, his stable, or anyone else. It cools down his heel heat by taking him off TV in the buildup. There isn't really any entertainment value for the crowd that can be equalled or exceeded in other ways. The big match on the card is a Smackdown match, it seems a little weird, Cody defeats Cena and transitions the belt to Seth, and Seth moves to Smackdown cutting off the vengeance feuds with Punk and Roman. Taking the belt off of Gunther anytime soon makes no sense, apart from a heel taking the belt off a heel, didn't Gunther just retire Goldberg?

The injury to me looks entirely legit. If it isn't legit, I don't see how just having him pop back in a few weeks to take the belt would be entertaining or enjoyable. Simply getting his faction to level the champion, keep him in the ring, and then have Seth cash the box to take the belt would be a superior angle because it: A. affirms and builds the legitimacy of Seth and the Stable as dangerous (like when NWO beat down The Rock). B. provides greater motivation for the babyface. C. It's more entertaining for the crowd. D. It adds heel heat to Seth and his stable.

I'm not saying that cashing in at a surprise moment and stealing the belt won't work down the road (like at WM or RR). But it would be under very different circumstances with a very different goal: after an extended absence and recovering from a legit injury and a massive setback, fans will want to see him back, and with a babyface turn against a hated heel.

But anyway, that's my reasoning there. We'll see how it goes.