| Ryuu96 said: I feel like I'm debating with a bunch of people who have stock in AI companies or a vested interest in marketing it, Lol. I know you don't, but that's what it feels like, not once have I said that AI will crash and burn into nothing, I have repeatedly said I take a more middle-ground approach, what I take issue with is the extreme levels of overhype that Microsoft/OpenAI place on AI and especially Sam Altman who has said some utterly fucking delusional shit lately, but it seems it is only okay to take an extreme stance if that extreme stance is "positive" towards AI changing the world and bringing us a AI utopia where Microsoft is going to make hundreds of billions of dollars, Lol. And as for AGI, I can see very clearly that AI isn't anywhere close to AGI still and it's an impossible stance to argue against "You don't know because you aren't in the field and don't know what ultra mega secrets they're hiding" Lol. By that logic I can't argue against anything because anything can just be said they're hiding secrets that we don't know about. But lets come back to this conversation in 5 years time when we still don't have AGI (unless the goalposts are moved) and Microsoft is still spending tens of billions and making no profits on AI. Unless there's a sudden massive technological leap and for folks who say we have made massive advancements, AI isn't a new thing, it has been around for 40+ years, Lol. ChatGPT and CoPilot are two other things heavily pushed by Microsoft, ChatGPT makes no money and nobody gives a fuck about CoPilot. AI code is poor for anything complex, it can't replace creatives and it has already practically skimmed the entirety of the internet, there is no more data for it to rip off and trying to teach AI any higher isn't producing much. I'm not sure where this magical AI replacing everyone to perfect results is going to come from when there's not much left for them to learn from. I've seen plenty of developers who actually use AI make the claims that it is very stupid when it comes to complex tasks. But I'll move on and we'll come back to this conversation in a few years from now because I've been hearing about AI being the next step in human evolution and bringing a Utopia and making everyone billions for years now so I can wait another few years, Lol. Just don't know why my middle-ground stance is receiving so much pushback and people rushing in to defend Microsoft and OpenAI's stances, not like I ever said AI will amount to nothing, Lol. Just don't think the future is as extremely "beneficial" as Microsoft and OpenAI hope it will be. Some of you sounding like you have stock in Microsoft NGL, Lol. |
I believe its because you continue to call it overhyped but its not. Technology doesn't stand still and thus today's AI isn't what it's going to be tomorrow. Yes, AI agents can be great at simple straight forward data and struggle with more complex items but if you believe that is going to remain that way than I have to say you are putting your head in the sand.
No, AI isn't bringing a Utopia, its bringing change and it will be big. A lot of jobs that depend on a human to take information, analyze it and then do something with it will all go away. I know this for a fact because the company I use to work for did exactly that. It wasn't called AI but you can pretty much think of it as such. All we did was create software that took teams of people to do and made it so it can all be automated. There are a lot of jobs like that where a human will not be necessary because it can be done way faster with an AI model geared for that industry.
You are way to wrapped up in ChatGPT AI models because it's a general use AI but the more specialized stuff used in every industry will be way better at those task because they are built specifically for those task.
I am not here to defend MS, I am telling you that everyone sees what is happening, especially people who are working in the field and its coming. Do not think of one AI to rule them all. Its going to be a lot of specialized AI models geared towards every industry and it will eliminate a lot of jobs. Big corporations like MS will always be about the dollars not the people but then again that is the majority of corporations out there. You either using it or you are getting beat by it.
