Pemalite said:
Lavamelon said:
That is not rejection of science at all. You might be aware that atheists also believe in all kinds of things without evidence, plenty of scientists believe in parralell universes and alien life despite having zero evidence for those. Oh, and Elon Musk likely believes we live inside a computer simulation just like the Matrix. Good luck finding evidence for that
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1) It is a rejection of science.
2) Atheists isn't a foundation for a set of beliefs. Atheism or Anti-Theist is literally a non-adherence to religious propaganda as the burden of proof has NOT been met.
3) Scientists believe in all sorts of things even on a personal level, such as God.
However Scientists can only publish data in a scientific whitepaper that has evidence and repeatable testing and can thus be verified... Thus the personal beliefs of any scientist is thus irrelevant.
4) Elon Musk can believe whatever he wants. Elon Musk isn't an empirical source of truth. Elon Musk gets things wrong.
Elon Musk is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
The great thing about science is that science will change it's position based on new evidence coming available.
That doesn't make it wrong or incorrect.
As for your article... I suggest you skip the dumbed-down version from MSN and go to the original source at "The Conversation".
https://theconversation.com/what-if-the-big-bang-wasnt-the-beginning-our-research-suggests-it-may-have-taken-place-inside-a-black-hole-258010
In short, it doesn't replace the current Big Bang Theory, it just augments and adds to it.Â
But again, this doesn't prove or disprove your particular God, making it an irrelevant point.
Lavamelon said:
Urey-Miller experiment is outdated nowadays, the experiment assumed a "reducing atmosphere" rich in hydrogen, which we now believe might not be fully accurate using todays scientific knowledge. Also, the glassware used in the experiment influenced the results. The experiment was good for its time, but its not much anymore.
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Hydrogen is literally the most abundant component in the entire universe.
And you are missing the point of the scientific method... This test has been repeatedly demonstrated over the past century.
You could also do it at home.
And again, even if Abiogensis wasn't factual, doesn't mean your particular God exists anyway.
This is the issue with apologetic's like yourself, you use deductive reasoning and believe everything else to be "false" even when it has evidence... And then just the excuse "God did it" without any evidence.
Lavamelon said:
You sometimes work for free, that is awesome, I apologize for my assumptions. Keep in mind I don't know you on a personal level, I had no way of knowing what your payment schedule is like. You are awesome for that.
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And this is why evidence is important and why you shouldn't automagically assume something without said evidence.
What I do is a passion, not just a paycheck... And I can assure you, majority of us firefighters in Australia, do not believe in God.
Your God doesn't keep us safe, training, reliance on our peers and our PPE keeps us safe.
...But I also must ask you... What do you think of cancer in children and babies? Your particular God must be responsible for that horrific evil. It's criminal to allow it to happen.
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If thats your definition of rejection of science, then everybody has some form of rejection of science. Its completely impossible to not have some form of personal belief that isn't published in scientific journals. Be it parallel universes, aliens, Matrix-like simulations, astrology or whatever floats your boat.
You mentioned LGBTQI, I have wondered if that makes it hard for evolution to be true since two people of the same gender cannot reproduce, hence the "gay gene" cannot be passed from one generation to the next. From an evolution standpoint, it is hard to explain it.
As for cancer (among other things), God created a challenging life here on earth, not an easy one. Heaven is the easy life, Earth is the hard life. Ironically, people who have easy lives here on earth tend to be less religious than people who have hard lives. Look how hard life is for the people of Afghanistan, yet they are one of the most religious societies on Earth. Meanwhile Sweden has one of the most easiest lifestyles on Earth, yet they are mostly non-religious. Hard lives make people more religious, not less. Just ask the people of Afghanistan.
