Pemalite said:
Lavamelon said:
Everything you said is completely wrong. First of all, we theists don't "reject" science, we simply believe the universe was created by God, and science is simply the laws of physics that control the way the universe works, nothing more than that. No conflict between God and science. |
That is literally a rejection of science.
There is zero evidence your hypothetical God exists... But there is evidence the Big Bang occurred.
Lavamelon said:
Second, abiogenesis has NOT been proven. It is merely a hypothesis, not even a full-fledged theory. The amount of evidence we have to prove abiogenesis happened is no higher than the amount of evidence to prove that Santa Claus is climbing down peoples chimneys to deliver presents to children. |
There is strong evidence for Abiogensis.
You have the Miller-Urey experiment for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
Basically they managed to create organic compounds (Amino acids) from non-organic which is chemical constituents of proteins,
There is more evidence for Abiogensis than "Santa Claus" or "God". And that is simply a fact.
Lavamelon said:
You get paid to be a firefighter. You are not doing this hard work for free |
The importance of evidence... It can actually make a difference.
Yes I have a paid role which is 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.
On my 2 weeks off period I do actually do it for free locally, with my volunteer station.
For about 5 years prior to being a paid firefighter, I was purely volunteer.
So yes. I do actually "do this for free".
Lavamelon said:
I live in Australia, atheists here live hedonistic lifestyles full of alcohol, dr*gs, gambling, hookup culture, and other distasteful lifestyles |
I live in Australia, I am an Atheist.
I don't live a lifestyle full of alcohol, drugs, gambling, hookup and other "distasteful" lifestyles.
And even if I did, it's not your business or concern anyway.
Lavamelon said:
The only reason why atheists are "good people" is because they live in first world societies where they never experience poverty, starvation, extreme water shortages, etc. Its easy to be a "moral" person when you are living such a comfortable lifestyle isn't it? If you were born into a poverty-stricken third world society you wouldn't be the same as who you are now |
This is false.
You don't know me or my background, as a child I was left homeless and had to fend for myself, get a job, education, house, car and work my way up from literally nothing, just the clothes on my back.
It's not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows just because I live in a "first world country".
...Some of us actually have to fight and work to get to where we are. - And why did this happen? Because my parents were highly religious and I was no longer their child because I was LGBTQI. (The 90's was a different era in Australia.)
Atheists are "good people" because of empathy. - We are animals with a ton of different senses and receptors.. One of those receptors is pain.
We do not like pain inflicted upon us, thus we are unlikely to inflict pain on others.
In saying that... Many religious zealots engage in criminal behavior, be-headings, rape, murder, abuse, war, death, drugs and more.
Religion doesn't make you "good" anymore than being Atheist makes you "bad".
Lavamelon said:
Christianity has lots of denominations, but the religion is still the same overall. The only main differences are the social hierarchy (Pope or no Pope), apart form that, not much else is different. Same religion under a different banner. |
No. It's really not the same overall.
7th day Adventists forbid you to eat Pork and wear clothing of mixed fabrics and believe in the Genesis account as a literal interpretation of how the world was created... Which literally conflicts with the CENTURIES of science and evidence we have today that proves Genesis to be false.
They are NOT the same as a more progressive branch of Christianity who do not have a literal interpretation.
No you don't.
And if you did, you would be the first person to ever do so in 6,000 years and likely win a nobel prize.
There wasn't even a world wide flood. Lavamelon said:
We know that the universe is finely tuned for life. If the laws of physics were slightly different, we wouldn't be alive right now because the chemistry in our bodies would be too unstable. |
The universe is not finely tuned for life.
We evolved to current conditions... And outside of those conditions we are remarkably fragile.
Too cold? You are dead.
Too hot? You are dead.
Too much water? You are dead.
Which is why 99% of the planet is actually dangerous/incompatible with human life... The Oceans, arctic regions, deserts and more... Without aids, we would be dead and unable to survive.
The Bible cannot even get basic math like Pi correct. It is not a source of truth... It is the claim.
Lavamelon said:
No contradiction, Jesus is the Son of God, He can do as He pleases. |
There is zero evidence for this. |
