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curl-6 on 22 June 2025
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TallSilhouette said:

At the risk of both wasting my time and essentially just repeating the conversation I just had with another user...

curl-6 said:

Nobody in the modern developed world is "oppressed". 

Trans people aren't being denied their very right to exist? The justice system and prison industrial complex don't disproportionately target minorities? The GOP isn't systematically suppressing their voting power? The Trump administration isn't weaponizing the government to imply that literally any and every minority group didn't earn their positions they worked for? How can any even remotely informed (or even just unsheltered) person actually think this? 

curl-6 said:

Blaming things that happened decades or even over a century ago for your problems today is ridiculous. If you were never personally enslaved for example, then you did not and do not suffer from it.

Do you actually think the effects of slavery and discrimination just suddenly stop after one generation? 

curl-6 said:

People have free will, your position in life is foremost the result of your own choices and actions.

You control your own actions, but not the position you start in or the opportunities you have access to because of it. 

curl-6 said:

People should be treated equally. Nobody should get handouts or special treatment.

In a vacuum, yes. In practice on a systemic level that just solidifies and reinforces the inequities already present. 

It only takes one person, one generation, to pick themselves up and succeed. Blaming stuff from like 150 years ago doesn't help anyone and just creates a defeatist mentality; nobody is going to get anywhere in life by blaming all their problems on an external "oppressor" or events in the distant past that can't be changed.

If the problem is say poverty, then let's help poor people. All poor people, not one race than another.

Cos the thing is, favouring one group over another, no matter how good your intentions are, breeds resentment and actually increases racism, making society worse for everybody; we're in this mess now because of the last decade of well intentioned but ultimately unhelpful favouritism of certain groups.