| JuliusHackebeil said: Just going by USA because it is such a popular example for race relations: in 1860, about 1,45 % of people owned slaves. About 8 % lived in a slave owning household. |
I like how this is the only form of discrimination mentioned in the video that you actually address, as if many, many more people and their families weren't affected (positively or negatively) by things like the Homestead Act, New Deal programs, sharecropping, redlining, persecution by law enforcement, segregation, general racism, etc.
| JuliusHackebeil said: If you want to punish the decendants of those 8 %, that is already a strange viewpoint. But to want to punish the decendants of the remaining 92 % of white people, that I cannot understand at all. |
As sundin said...what?! Who said anything about punishing white people? How does helping minorities do that? This worldview is so emblematic of the victim complex that fuels so much of right wing politics.
| JuliusHackebeil said: Inherited wealth is mostly spent after one or two generations, not amassed to form a big pile of gold that some people just lucked out of because of their race. Wealth, spending habbits, the economy are all more complicated than Mario Kart. And very few white people were wealthy to begin with. Just 70, 80 years ago most lived in conditions far worse than any person in the USA today, irrespective of skin colour. |
And yet the racial wealth gap in this country remains massive. You don't have to be rich to have been positively or negatively affected by generational wealth disparities. How else do you explain the wealth gap? Culture? Work ethic? Family values?
| JuliusHackebeil said: A youtuber screaming about past injustices (and slavery, segregation were injustices, obviously) is not a good argument for looking at the present and say: let us not help poor people, let us help black poor people, because they deserve it more. |
No one here is saying not to help poor people in general. Only one side is objecting to helping specific disadvantaged groups within that population.
| JuliusHackebeil said: Because there are still disparities between groups. And everybody knows what disparities between groups must mean: racism. |
It's been true for pretty much all of American history. Why would that suddenly stop being the case now?
