| Ryuu96 said: I think the wording is the problem here. … |
You could reword it that way with U.S. forcing Putin to the table…IDK i don’t see much of a difference. IG the main reason I mention bringing Ukraine to the table is b/c the U.S. has leverage (via monetary support) and authority over Ukraine, whereas they do not have this same leverage against Russia…so the U.S. can’t force Russia to do anything (unless you’ve got ideas?). Putin has threatened nukes if the U.S. got too involved after all. If we want to see peace where Putin surrenders territory, the U.S. will likely need to get Russian allies, such as China, involved in peace talks. That’s the only way I see Russia ceding territory. Putin has threatened nuclear action if Ukraine re-annexes their lost land; so it’s unwise to fight for the land. Russia is who we’re trying to talk down, and they’re not gonna play softball. That’s the nature of war: the winning side often refuses to make concessions unless they have reason to do so. No country cares about morality of annexation, for annexation is itself inherently immoral (unless reclaiming land lost from the recent past). The U.S. needs to give Russia that reason. What do you believe the U.S. can/should do to make this happen?
As far as U.S. monetary support moving forward is concerned, I do suspect Trump will begin to place pressure on EU nations to fund the conflict. This would free up U.S. resources in preparation for conflict with Taiwan (and possibly Iran). Indeed, it was listed in that Project 2025 manifesto thing that the plan was to hand off the financial responsibility of U.S. in this conflict to EU nations…so, that’s what I’m betting on happening. Though the minerals deal does incentivize the U.S. to prolong this conflict, and it definitely favors keeping Ukraine out of annexation from Russia, so this could force the U.S.’ hand to stay involved. They could attempt to bluff by saying “We won’t fund this conflict after Biden’s funding dries up” so as to place pressure on EU nations to ramp up their funding; though I suspect EU nations will see through the bluff, support won’t ramp up, and the U.S. will have their hand forced back into the conflict.
Last edited by firebush03 - on 23 May 2025
