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Hardstuck-Platinum on 19 May 2025
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EricHiggin said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

I think the PS3 only initially failed because of the 360 though. MS being aggressive with low prices trying hard to compete with them gave everyone an alternative to PS3. What would be the alternative to PS6? The 2tb XBSX is now 730$ so it's clear MS have just said "screw it, we don't care about cheap consoles or our image of being consumer friendly anymore". The Switch 2 doesn't look like it will be strong enough to play games like GTA 6 so that's not an option to leave to. The only potential threat to Sony I see would be Valve making a console version of the steam deck. 

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EricHiggin said:

Plenty of casuals simply won't console game if they can't get what they want for a reasonable price, and will go mobile. Plenty of those casuals will just get a Switch 2 for $449 instead of a $700 PS6 if they're into console type gaming enough. Many would just keep their PS5, or get a used one, even an XB Series, to play GTAVI. Some will even get a PC instead. There's also those who just won't game anymore and will find another pastime. 

SNY forgetting what they learned with PS3 would be a sad gen in console land, because at least XB was there to keep those casuals in the red ocean. Doing something like that again with PS6, without XB being much of a factor, will cause plenty to jump into the blue ocean instead, or will just get out of the water entirely.

Thinking you've got 100M+ guaranteed dedicated customers who will buy your product no matter what is the type of thinking that led to PS3 and its struggle to just hit 87M sales. Doesn't matter if it would be a different situation with the same mindset this time, the outcome will also be different overall yet similar in the end due to that mindset.

Simple question. If the 360 didn't exist, don't you think it's safe to assume ps3 would've got at least another 20 million sales? I think it was the powerful and cheap 360 that swooped in and stole the sales from PS3 that did the damage to the PS3. It wasn't Sony's attitude or mindset that did it. Without 360 the mindset wouldn't have been punished because there would have been no alternative to PS3. People would have had to buy it if they wanted a true next gen console. I don't really consider the Wii part of the ps3/360 battle.