the-pi-guy said:
Dramas do get criticized. 13 Reasons Why got criticized about how it was depicting suicide. But I think in general, dramas tend to show the consequences of something. Which is the biggest concern. Rape doesn't tend to be glorified in a drama, it tends to be a heavy experience that makes people feel bad about it. Whereas the comedy people are concerned about belittles that trauma. As I've said multiple times in this thread, you can absolutely joke about anything, what matters is how. Does your holocaust joke make fun of Nazis or does it make fun of people who think Nazis are bad? Does your drama convince people that rape is good or that rape is a bad traumatic thing? What is the message you're giving people? The thing that gets me about all of this is that plenty of people who understand that the message matters, suddenly don't think it does when it's hypothetical. Lots of conservatives are concerned about the messages that Hollywood, the gaming industry, news media is putting out. Ben Shapiro, on multiple occasions, has made a big deal about how the tv show Will & Grace has brainwashed people into accepting gay people in society. Yet somehow, when you ask the hypothetical question about comedians, it is now unthinkable that comedy could potentially have any kind of impact on people's behaviors and beliefs. I would say that most people don't actually believe that, when you really got down to it. I think that they're just concerned that these things will start to negatively impact them. |
The jokes that I appreciate making the most at least point to how wrong things are. But, i will admit that many are crass for its own sake. So, sometimes nuance just goes out the window and i start making dick jokes. I also disagree, because you are asking too much. You are asking for an art form to be evolved and socially involved as well on these important issues. But sometimes art works on a lower and more subtle level: it just does things like letting you know where we are as a nation on these issues. It lets us laugh at a nuanced issue, when even the good guys don't always have good behavior. In which case, some comedians may lob jokes at disenfranchised groups and this can set y'all off. Also, please realize that once you start designating certain groups as sacred, and can't criticise those groups any more; you will then get comedians to slay these sacred cows with their jokes. The whole point is to make people a bit uncomfortable and get them to relieve that through a laugh. You can't do that by playing nice.
