Ever play a game so bad, that it enhanced your love for good games?

[Leynos]

LegitHyperbole said:

Leynos said:

Thought you were talking shmups not roguelites. Shmups and only 50 euro, that's like 1 game. I have shelves full of shmups so I can say. You are not too experienced in the genre.

Nah, they are like 5 euro each, 10 max. Reverse bullet hells or hoard Survivors, they are like a rouglite subgenre that like end game diablo but no CD's, it's entirely auto shoot mechanics where you do a run of 10-30 mins and get EXP for killing mobs and when you level up you choose a few weapons that synergise together, a modifier for one of the weapons or some stat change or some kind of a buff to help and you earn some curency for permanent progression outside of runs. Eventually the mobs become hoards and you either die or build yourself to become an untouchable God. I'd say it's spawned it's own genre now, an extremely dopamine heavy genre but like Soulsborne the competition can't reach Vampire Survivors. Halls of Torment on PC is supposed to surpass it but from what is available on console, they are weaker even when made with much higher quality as Vampire Survivors is a bit retro in style, copying assets right from Castlevania, like 1 to 1, Capcom didn't sue them and instead done a DLC partnership with them. 

Anyway. Not shmups or rouglites at least not traditional rouglites. 

Fair. Your post mentions bullet hells and I thought you meant shmups.  Not into roguelites myself. I finished Hades and that was ok but meh. Never finished Time Stalkers on Dreamcast. That is a genre I have little experience in.