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Cobretti2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

❗️🇬🇧 British troops sent to Ukraine won’t go near the front lines — their mission will be to train Ukrainian forces, not to fight - The Telegraph.

"Our focus is on rebuilding a modern, capable Ukrainian army," said UK Defence Secretary John Healey.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 28 April 2025 at 09:15

As expected, a useless security guarantee then, as worthless as the original Budapest Memorandum, it all but guarantees that if fighting broke out again, that the UK would quickly pull their troops out of Ukraine before they get shot, if that isn't the case then there's no reason why they shouldn't be on the future ceasefire frontlines.

What this tells us is that UK is terrified that if they were on the frontlines, that British soldiers would be shot at if Russia decides to attack again, therefore it also shows us that the UK doesn't want to risk entering war with Russia as part of any security guarantee. If UK doesn't believe Russia would break the ceasefire, then there's no reason to not put British troops on the frontline, but clearly UK believes there's a chance Russia would break the ceasefire, and therefore doesn't want British Troops dragged into a war.

These are not security guarantees.

It could be worst. America could offer to train then and then when they bail like they did Afghanistan, took what minutes to be run over by the enemy?

Well, the Americans are the real "cheese"-eating running monkeys. Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia... but the French get laughed at because the German strategy cut off most of their army in the Netherlands, so France had almost nothing left to defend the country - and yet they fought on for several weeks despite knowing it was already lost until Pétain got into power and quickly signed a peace deal. In fact, as a military historian once recounted, if Germany was located where Quebec is and the US would have fought them with their early 1940 equipment, they would have been routed even more thoroughly by the Germans, entering DC after just a couple weeks before the US had any real time to react (The US was very weak militarily in the late 1930's apart from naval power, which only the UK and Japan could rival to some degree, but ground forces and air force wouldn't have been a match to Germany or even France at the time).