Machiavellian said:
So what exactly did Ukraine need the US for. Basically they could have done this deal with Russia without US intervention since there is nothing the US is getting from Russia. Hell, Ukraine isn't even getting a security deal if Russia reneg on the agreement. Already Putin is showing that he consider the US weak since he continue to strike Ukraine while these supposed negotiations are going on.  |
Exactly, if Ukraine wanted to surrender they don't need America involved, that is what this is, America's Peace Surrender Plan.
Total capitulation to Russia from America, utterly pathetic to see how far America has fallen.
Then when the world recognises Crimea as Russian, Ukraine can't take it back, and looks the other way at Russia stealing parts of Southern/Eastern Ukraine (Just like the world did in 2014 when they stole Crimea), Russia will then repair their battered army and invade again years down the line, hoping this time they can actually take Kyiv and thus Ukraine.
If they fail once again they will again turn around (Hoping for another spineless Republican) and say "Hey, we will stop at NEW current frontlines, as long as you recognise Kherson, Zaporizhia and Donbas as Russian!" and repeat this process until they've actually managed a successful military campaign. So obvious for anyone to see who isn't a complete moron or a Russian puppet.
But hey, Russia is "making a concession" that they won't slaughter and take over all of Ukraine! Poor Russia! What a hard concession they're having to make, lets ignore also that Russia can't even take the rest of Ukraine right now in their current military state! That's why they want a pause but only if that pause ensures they keep everything they've stolen and keeps Ukraine defenceless against future aggression.
Trump really is a tough negotiator there, the art of the deal is giving your enemy everything they want.
