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Phenomajp13 on 12 April 2025
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JRPGfan said:
Phenomajp13 said:

I'm sure Nintendo views all types of software including the tech demos as a way to sale hardware. Doesn't seem like they are interested in bundling software for free though for whatever reason. What I find interesting is how we try to tell other businesses to do something based off what we see from others while ignoring these businesses all do things differently. There are things I wish both Sony and Nintendo would do because I see the other doing it. 

Even Arlo is saying this, that standard practices in the industry aren't something Nintendo should just ignore because... they are Nintendo.

"It is industry standard, that when you release a new and definitive edition of a game, you include any and all dlc."  - Arlo

".... and infact, Nintendo has (past tense) been doing this as well. Any wii U port, or delux version on switch(1),  have all gotten the dlc (included). Thats just... kinda what you do, in this industry."  - Arlo

from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNGiMS9k75c

Like the Chat function locked behind a pay wall....
I mean just because Playstation and Xbox don't do that, doesn't mean Nintendo can't right?
These are features Nintendo should have had like 2 generations ago, that the other two don't charge for.

At some point consumers are likely to go "why are you doing this?"

This isn't just the tech demo, being something they charge for (while others don't).
It's Nintendo seems like they want to break the mold, by really charging people as much as they can possible squeeze out of their customer base.

Arlo is another youtuber with an opinion, their opinion isn't gospel. I personally think PS/MS online multiplayer price looks terrible ($59.99 to $69.99) compared to $19.99 offered by Nintendo along with a family plan that could make it cheaper. Especially now on Switch 2 and no I don't care about those games that MS/PS force me to receive. The simple fact of the matter is that no one was subscribing to PS online during the PS3 era because multiplayer was free. That tells me people only pay to play online and Nintendo has a tiered system with the cheapest option. The point is people place value in different things, Arlo or yourself doesn't speak for everyone. Nintendo, Sony, and MS all offer things that I would like to see offered by the others.

JRPGfan said:
KLXVER said:

So you dont need to pay for an online subscription to play something like Fortnite?

No fortnite is free to play online.
Same with something like Path of exile 1/2, apex, fall guys, the finals, world of tanks, overwatch, marvel rivals, rocket league ect.

KLXVER said:
JRPGfan said:

So what exactly are people talking about on the Playstation and Xbox? I mean you have to pay to play games online, so whats the point of just talking through your PS5 or Series X? 

Just to be clear, F2P games are also free on Switch and have never required NSO or the app to chat. That goes for Overwatch 2, Fortnite, and Apex Legends. Just plug in your mic. The chat function being pay walled is very normal because its an online feature. Anything revolving online is tied to NSO which is cheaper and the Game Chat function definitely seems superior to PS/MS offerings. Video chat seems only available when streaming your game session on PS/MS.

I would like to add that this is similar to the online chatter we saw during the Switch era, where it was assumed the app was required for any voice chat. That was proven incorrect and there are several games including F2P games that allow you to just plug in a mic. I expect this to be the same on Switch 2 but most 3rd parties, not the F2P 3rd party games, will opt to use Gamechat because its soo good. F2P games will likely not support this to not require to pay to play. Don't fall for Jrpgs outrage, it's just premature console warring.

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 12 April 2025