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Cerebralbore101 said:

To my fellow Americans, a Truck or SUV is a car. I drive a 20-year-old Toyota Corolla because it runs great and is cheap to insure. Meanwhile, people tell me all the time that "the average car payment according to AAA is $600." And then every goddamn time, I have to point out that AAA is using F150's and SUVs in their "car payment" average. They are also using payments of people who sold their old vehicle before paying it off. So many people in the USA are paying for both their new car and their old car that they sold. 

So many people want to bitch about the price of videogames or some other tech, yet they light money on fire all the time.

An American truck is what we call a "ute" or "utility vehicle". - They are extremely prolific here.

We do have American F150's and RAM's here, but it's the cheap, small Korean and Chinese vehicles that dominate sales due to efficiency and cost.

Ryuu96 said:

I think I can speak for many Brits when I say that we don't want USA's ugly monstrosities on our roads, specifically the oversized, overcompensating vehicles. They're not only ugly as shit, environmentally damaging, not built for our roads, they're also straight up dangerous. The size of some of these things is absolutely ridiculous, there is little chance of surviving an impact from one.

America's Cars and Trucks Are Getting Bigger, and So Are Their Front Blind Zones. Children Are Paying The Price.

U.S. Drivers Run Over 15 Children Every Day In Parking Lots And Driveways

They'd even demolish your average vehicle and probably the driver in them.

From a Road Crash Rescue perspective, they also add a ton off extra dynamics and risks to an extrication if it's an LV vs LV... They tend to end up on top of smaller vehicles and thus requires extra stabilization, care and caution.
If it's an Ugly American monstrosity verses a road train, it's usually a far better outcome, that extra volume can help.

the-pi-guy said:

A lot of the car discussions are made more difficult by the fact that companies don't generally want to ship cars overseas. (Think of how much material could be shipped inside of a vehicle.)

Toyota hires 10's of thousands of US workers, and makes almost million cars every year in the US. Toyota alone makes more cars in the US than gets traded between the US and all of Europe. 

Honda is the same. 

Hyundai has two US plants from what I understand, the one makes almost 400k vehicles, and there's a newer one that is expected to make 500k vehicles a year. 

Yes, two Japanese and one Korean companies, but they make literally millions of cars in the US. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8kn5v37wxo

" In 2022, 692,334 new EU-made cars were exported to the US, worth €36bn ($37bn; £30bn). While only 116,207 new US-made cars went in the opposite direction"

Sadly we closed down our car manufacturing a long time ago, our economy transitioned in other ways.




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