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Kyuu said:

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The argument about competition's core foundation is to push the inference of sales and output from third parties which is simply no longer the case with Switch, the flaw in this argument is that while PC and PS5 have more competition it is simply not as great a gap to the point that it makes first party titles perform the way they do.

I've played MH since the original PS2 release believe me your argument is the one that is misleading, the last console MH game was on a single platform for a start and required the platform holder Nintendo to do all the marketing and publishing themselves outside Japan it wasn't going to release in the west otherwise and to top it off it was only the second console game to come to the west after the original PS2 game. ALTTP, WW, PH, ALBW, LA(OG), Oracles all averaged in at 4m or less and were the first Zelda games on their platform that's five compared to the three exceptions, fact is LOZ, OOT and TP sold what they did because the were factors not tied to the games at play this is why the series didn't stay at those numbers and the rest of the games average 4m for example the first Zelda game which you used in your argument was one of the earliest games in a new era of gaming after the crash, in comparison the first Monster Hunter game had flawed execution as a game with wayward controls with lack of content literally eight or so monsters offline and the rest requiring online to access coupled with the dreadful handling of PS2 online especially outside of Japan doomed it. TOTK will be selling until the next mainline Zelda game much like BOTW (it's been selling steadily for eight years now and still hitting 1m a quarter at 33m) has so in the four or five years until then it'll be selling with the new brand power this is why I doubt Wild will outsell it in the end even if Wild is ported to Switch 2 I can see maybe only a few extra mil at most much like the ports of Rise after NS/PC.

The are many great and influential franchises that doesn't translate into mainstream sales though Metroid is an example of this so it hasn't got as much bearing rating a series growth especially as prestige is something the masses aren't as aware of, your stance is pivoting to the niche argument with MH outside Japan well here is the irony Zelda has been niche in Japan for a while before BOTW even TP the highest selling only shifted 600k over the, Japan is one of the three major regions and games like the Freedom/Portable were at times outselling Zelda titles totals in Japan alone Freedom 3 sol 4.9m in Japan alone had it had a western release even with niche sales it would stand at a total comparable to the top three selling Zelda titles so it effectively balances out.

The growth of both titles is as equally impressive as each other same thing with GOW, Spiderman etc.

Last edited by Wyrdness - on 05 March 2025