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Darc Requiem 3 days ago
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Chazore said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea I agree with you. Especially when the latest revision of DLSS 4 gets to work with Turing which released in 2018. Sure you don't get Multi-frame generation but boy is it nuts to continue to get support for the best upscaler on the market after so many years. Especially when you know that those cards need upscaling support the most and DLSS 4 Transformer is so good that DLSS 4 performance mode looks similar or better than DLSS 3s quality mode. Imagine having that type of tech on a 2060 Super for example that is supported over 600 games.

Meanwhile RDNA 1/2/3 all get stuck with the garbage version of FSR. Frame gen and all the other tech doesn't matter if the base upscaler is garbage. And the worst part is, they are selling new RDNA 3 based products like the Strix Halo which won't have FSR 4 along side RDNA 4 which will have FSR 4. It's all kinds of stupid lol.

Also, completely forgot to bring it up in my original post, but when AMD came out with their first two iterations of FSR, they extended that olive branch to older Nvidia card users like myself. Now no more than 2 years later, they have taken back that branch, snapped it in half and say "our latest cards only, just like how Nvidia does it, or fuck off".


That doesn't make me want to buy an AMD card, that just tells me they will play Nvidia's ball game, even when we know they cannot keep up with the same perf gains/feature set, and the fact they play $50 less ball game doesn't make it enticing either. 

It's just so weird to see AMD continuously shooting themselves in the foot time and time again. "Here Nvidia users, have something to tide you over", then it's "we're the $50 less company, oh and no FSR for you Nvidia users", like how am I supposed to take either of those as net positives as a consumer?. 

People can't have it both ways. You can't want AMD to produce a comparable upscaler to Nvidia's, which requires dedicated hardware to run, and expect it to work on architectures without that hardware.  Bear in mind, I'm a 7900XTX owner so this affects me. RDNA2 was never going to being to run FSR4 and RDNA3 was a long shot. RDNA3 has AI accelerators but based on the avialable info, their performance lags behind RDNA4. IIRC, @Pemalite you may know this for sure, the AI accelerators for RDNA3 run off the shaders like the Ray Accelerators. They aren't separate dedicated hardware. If I'm correct, that would mean even if they could get it to run on RDNA3 the performance hit may not be worth it. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I wasn't expected a ML upscaler from AMD to run on their older hardware.

As for the pricing, the 9070XT pricing is good. I think $550 would have been a homerun but $600 is a good price. The 9070 pricing is another story. It's too close to the XT's price. With the XT at $600, the non-XT should be $500.

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